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My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by sleepybrett »

jseliger wrote: post #117
EtienneK wrote: post #56

I was expecting to see 10s of keyboards as you'd see from most in r/MechanicalKeyboards and was disappointed to only find 5. Not an unhealthy relationship at all!

I eventually wound up with Kinesis ergo keyboards and stopped being much "into" keyboards; they are a means to an end: https://jakeseliger.com/2011/07/17/further-thoughts-on-the-k... . Now I have an Advantage 3 with Box White switches, after admittedly talking to an Upgrade Keyboards key switch sommelier, which I admit somewhat undercuts my first sentence in this comment.

I switched to advantages more than 20 years ago, but i still keep building new mechanicals, a couple for me (playing games on an advantage is ... hilarious), some for friends. But I hear this. I went to a 360pro with browns (because I ordered it direct before the upgrade keyboards stuff went live). Maybe I'll swap them out some day (one of the used advantage 2s I picked up a few years back was the RedLF model and I thought I'd hate it, but for 50$ who can refuse, but I found myself preferring it over the brown model).

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Post by trey-jones »

pr0zac wrote: post #115
frameset wrote: post #16

I really don't understand the numpad-less trend of fashionable keyboards. Doing any kind of number entry beyond one or two digits is very annoying without one. They also don't take up that much space really. If your keyboard is a portable one you pack with you on trips, I get it. If it lives on a desk, why not splash out the small amount extra to make number entry much easier.

Do you not know how to touch type without looking at the keyboard at all or have you just not learned where the numbers are? Shouldn't you take the time to learn to type correctly instead of relying on moving your entire hand just to type a number? I truly do not mean to be insulting or anything, but I read comments like this a lot and they really confuse me. I don't need a numpad because I know how to touch type and…

This seems like some weird flex about being able to type numbers as effectively on the number row as on a number pad (not sure I believe that). I would rather flex that I never have to move my hand to the mouse...

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by phero_cnstrcts »

delecti wrote: post #285
phero_cnstrcts wrote: post #121

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I have bought at least twice as many keyboards as this dude - build 15 from scratch plus designed my own low profile hand wired dactyls - and I don’t have a problem.

I mean, define "problem", because it sounds like you've got an order of magnitude more keyboards than hands.

I mean, I feel fine! one day I will find the perfect keyboard.

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by out-of-ideas »

ako wrote: post #299
jseliger wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I eventually wound up with Kinesis ergo keyboards and stopped being much "into" keyboards; they are a means to an end: https://jakeseliger.com/2011/07/17/further-thoughts-on-the-k... . Now I have an Advantage 3 with Box White switches, after admittedly talking to an Upgrade Keyboards key switch sommelier, which I admit somewhat undercuts my first sentence in this comment.

I recently purchased an Alice format ergonomic keyboard, the keychron k15 pro [1]. It has a split design, but otherwise it’s totally flat. How much of an improvement do you think a more ergonomically shaped keyboard l8ke a kinesis makes? [1]: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k15-pro-alice-lay...

i really miss the 12 or 18 macro keys to the left side of the keyboard of the ol logitech G15 and G110.

have you used this for gaming? specifically FPSs and MMORPGs where left hand needs easy access to the right side of the split-keyboard?

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by sleepybrett »

dietsche wrote: post #300
philote wrote: post #186

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I love my Kinesis Advantage 2 keyboard, it's saved my hands/wrists. How's the 3 in comparison?

The 3 is basically the same except you have real F keys and can upload settings to it via USB. Both are great keyboards. I’ve used them for well over a decade.

I went from 1's and 2's w/ custom controllers to a 360pro. It's largely the same board in terms of geometry. There are a few more keys, which are welcome, it's ZMK programmable (pro only). The writ wrests, extra, are better and don't seem to deform/wear out like the old ones. It's much less 'hollow', feels much more solid. The tenting is pretty awesome, the split is welcome. I would buy the pbt keys for extra $, the keys they ship are shit. I also pulled the DSA homerow from one of my advantages and used it here, they moved away from those special home row caps for cost reasons.

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by phero_cnstrcts »

walteweiss wrote: post #126
phero_cnstrcts wrote: post #121

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I have bought at least twice as many keyboards as this dude - build 15 from scratch plus designed my own low profile hand wired dactyls - and I don’t have a problem.

Would love to read your thoughts on that, if you’d ever be up to that.

I’m not much of a writer. I do it mostly to optimize comfort while coding. I did think about posting some pics from my journey and my custom Zmk/qmk setup and key layout. But alas, there are many things to work on besides keyboards.

But if there’s something specific you have in mind I can try to answer here.

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by darkteflon »

_cenw wrote: post #323
pcurve wrote: post #238

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While I do miss the number pads it was leading me to bad posture and messing up my back. I like how some keyboards have detached numberpad but they are rare.

Southpaw keyboards (with lefthand numpads) also exist, but they're even more rare.

Yeah I put a wireless numpad to the left of the keyboard when I need it - mainly just for Blender and Excel.

Re: My Unhealthy Relationship with Keyboards

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Post by phero_cnstrcts »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #269
phero_cnstrcts wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have bought at least twice as many keyboards as this dude - build 15 from scratch plus designed my own low profile hand wired dactyls - and I don’t have a problem.

Perhaps that's normal in the enthusiast communities you frequent, and perhaps it should be normal for members in a society as dependent on typing as modern humans, but you're definitely quite a few standard deviations away from the mean. Heck, in my engineering office (a bubble if there ever was one) there are only two other people who own more than one keyboard at home or know what a "mechanical" keyboard is, and mo…

Yeah, it was a bit tongue in cheek. The thing is that once you try something that isn’t the 20 dollar Walmart keyboard but a good ergonomic keyboard, heck, even a half assed, ergo keyboard - you realize how much better things could be. And down the rabbit hole you go. I’m hoping it’s a phase. But it’s also a fun hobby. Albeit a costly one.
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