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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dredmorbius »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #11

Can dang do something about the corporate spam that keeps popping up on HN? I don't think meta, or Apple, or the rest of these companies need help advertising products.

You can:

1. Flag content you feel isn't appropriate for HN.

2. Email mods at hn@ycombinator.com requesting that specific sites be deprecated and/or penalised.

As for the latter, I'm aware that general news and ideological sites are deprecated. I'm not aware that any mainstream corporate sites which have not engaged in vote-juicing practices are penalised.

There are those who share your weariness of promotional material from ... a certain commercial toothed segment, let's say.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by nickthegreek »

pzo wrote: post #163
nickthegreek wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Committing violence against others who are not doing anything illegal seems like a pretty easy way for you to lose a lot of privacy. Edit: OP removed their reference to punching people who would dare film them. This thread will no longer make sense to other's trying to catch up.

Try taking your phone out and start recording when talking to some random people on the street or in shop at cash register, or when talking to policeman etc. and see if none of them will start getting very annoyed or even aggressive - even if it's not (maybe) illegal people won't like it.

People are allowed to be annoyed. If you punch someone, or break/steal their property for recording, there are actual LEGAL consequences that could befall you. People record others all the time, there is this whole Karen phenomenon that is kinda hard not to know about..

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by cvccvroomvroom »

Justsignedup wrote: post #53

Reminds me of google glasses and the "glasshole" mentality. But because these are pretty stealth people won't realize it. It does have strong surveillance state vibes, everything I look at is recorded and replayable. Gonna take the cancel culture (in both the positive and negative aspects) to overdrive. In any case, let's see the price tag. When that tag goes sub-$100 we'll see some real stuff happening. Also would b…

They're not stealth because they're unfashionable and chunky obvious in real life.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by vidarh »

majormajor wrote: post #112
gruturo wrote: post #106

These things lack a display. I don't want cameras strapped to my head, I want a lightweight display I can wear unobtrusively and doesn't make anyone near me nervous (doubly so since this is from a company known for invading privacy), even if it's a fairly low resolution one. Version 1 could even be 4 lines of text and I'd still pay for it - I already wear glasses every waking moment of my life anyway. Pair it with my…

A readier-to-access camera means I could take pictures I can't now, since by the time I get my phone out the moment has passed. To me an always-on display in my glasses, on the other hand, seems like a ramp-up of screen-time-interruptions and very diminished gains compared to a phone or watch.

Cameras like this have been available for years. They're typically sold as "spy cameras", because that's how they're perceived. Amazon alone lists a few dozen models of various degrees reasonable appearance and features, most of them in the $40-$100 range.

This is old enough that at least one startup has already failed to get traction for trying to establish a standard to clip cameras onto glasses...

What you're paying for here is the Ray-Ban branding, not innovation.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by esafak »

ChicagoBoy11 wrote: post #24
sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

I was one of the ridiculous-looking people who had a Google Glass when it came out. It was clunky, and lasted a very short time, and your face would get hot, and it had no real AR interaction with the real world. But. If you could squint at the rough edges, and project forward what this could be like with more advanced tech, it was a no-brainer for me that it will be a far superior form factor for what we do with the…

You can talk to people with smart earbuds, with no invasion of privacy.

edit: All right, all right! It's a fair cop.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dredmorbius »

function_seven wrote: post #126
tempsy wrote: post #20

the only people who will buy these are creeps who want to secretly record other people in public

This isn't true. For one, it'll not be secret. The LED will be on. Also, these glasses do not match the appearance of their "analog" namesakes. I just compared the Wayfarers on that page to the pair I have right here, and the thickness is quite noticeable. These things are chunky! I think having it to record snippets of my golf game would be neat. Every par 3 I tee off is a hole-in-one opportunity, and how cool would…

Black tape and paint both exist.

Requiring The Rest of The World have 100% situational awareness to look for the glowing specs is also frankly ridiculous.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by somethoughts »

ajhurliman wrote: post #152
gruturo wrote: post #106

These things lack a display. I don't want cameras strapped to my head, I want a lightweight display I can wear unobtrusively and doesn't make anyone near me nervous (doubly so since this is from a company known for invading privacy), even if it's a fairly low resolution one. Version 1 could even be 4 lines of text and I'd still pay for it - I already wear glasses every waking moment of my life anyway. Pair it with my…

Yeah, that’s just not what the product is. It’s not targeted at helping people navigate roads, it’s for giving creators a more seamless way of getting footage in their everyday life. Meta spent a crazy amount of money hosting a giant party at VidCon (a YouTube/TikTok/Instagram focused convention) and I haven’t really seen them pushing these glasses anywhere else. Casey Neistat did a review on the first-gen version in…

Interesting - this is pretty insightful in terms of product market fit.

It seems more of a convenient GoPro POV camera form factor that allows more freedom from extra equipment (sunglasses versus some sort of helmet strap/chest strap) and less pre-planning.

I could also see some sort of application where the creator is live-streaming a concert or event to Instagram reels and getting feed back via the headphones from the internet audience on where to go/what to do next.

Definitely can see how it fits directly with FB/Insta in that it gets more people "creating" content for the rest of us (ergo more content to monetize for ads).

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by capableweb »

freedomben wrote: post #114
jeremyjh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Meta glasses don’t have a display, it’s just camera and audio.

Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious. If I bought one and discovered that (despite being able to record and stream video) it had no display, I would be pissed.

> Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious.

How? It's not mentioned anywhere that this is about displaying content, but it's very clear it's about capturing video and listening to audio only.

Or you want them to put "Notice: No display is included in the device" on the landing page?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by valine »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #87
sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

Eyeballs are pretty optimal for getting data out of a computer and into a brain. I think professionals will continue to use a high-resolution large-format desktop monitor, but a high-resolution large-format display on a pair of glasses is unambiguously superior to a phone screen, no matter how much resolution they pack in or how much larger than a pocket they get. What I wonder is where the keyboard is going. I have…

I’ve been imagining the future will be smart glasses paired with mini pocket keyboards, like the bottom half of a blackberry. Or who knows maybe everyone will lean heavily into dictation.

I think there’s also a future where hand tracking gets so good you just type on a full sized floating keyboard. That’s seems to be apples approach with the Vision Pro.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by idlewan »

Sheeny96 wrote: post #124

Anyone notice that these meta links open a new tab, then close the tab you're on, not allowing you to use the back button to navigate back to the previous page? Horrendously user hostile behaviour.

That might be Firefox's Facebook container's fault. I don't like this behavior either, you lose the tab history and the ability to recover it, unfortunately.
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