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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by _ea1k »

ChicagoBoy11 wrote: post #24
sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

I was one of the ridiculous-looking people who had a Google Glass when it came out. It was clunky, and lasted a very short time, and your face would get hot, and it had no real AR interaction with the real world. But. If you could squint at the rough edges, and project forward what this could be like with more advanced tech, it was a no-brainer for me that it will be a far superior form factor for what we do with the…

I remember having similar thoughts about Google Glass despite never using it and never really wanting to use it.

I mean, the concept seemed amazing, but it seemed clear that it needed to be combined with vastly more AI capability. All of the things that people imagined it doing were basically impossible.

But now it seems like something much more powerful shouldn't be that far away.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by KaiserPro »

I have a set of original rayban stories. They are excellent hardware hampered by shite, shortsighted software, both on the glasses and on the app.

1) The killer feature is not the camera, but the sound. Having bluetooth audio with you, without stuff in/over your ears is really really great.

2) The physical button action is swapped. single press is video, long press picture.

3) the touch pad is hard to find and there is no texture difference. Not only that but its really easy to trigger music playing by holding them in your hand.

Over all the hardware is great.

Firmware, however, is utterly shite.

For the first year, the maximum time you could get them to play music was about 15 minutes. They'd just stop, disconnect from Bluetooth and need a power cycle to get back again.

They would randomly disconnect for shits and giggles. worse than cheap bluetooth headphones. Whom everlet them out the door in such a poor state, then compounding it by not actually fixing the problems, just shitting out half backed features, should be told off (I'm looking at you Boz).

Then there is the assistant. Functionally limited, I don't use them because you have to say "hey facebook" as the wake word. I'm not saying that in fucking public. who though that was a good idea clearly has been with the company too long.

The app is called "view" its now only just been integrated into the ios photoroll. for the longest while it had its own photo gallery, and you needed to manually sync the photos you wanted.

Whats even more odd is there is no integration with either instagram or facebook, so getting the photos and videos into either of them is a multi-app multi-stage faff.

TLDR:

Great hardware, shit firmware, lots of promise squandered by a total lack of QA or attention to quality or detail in basic flow.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

#143

Post by nickthegreek »

esafak wrote: post #123
freedomben wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your point would be a lot better without the threat of physical violence at the end (which seems both silly, uncalled for, and unnecessary). I'm very deeply concerned about privacy, but a simple thing like an "on" or "recording" light on the glasses could alert people that recording is on.

By the time I am close enough see that puny light you've already recorded me. It's an opt out mechanism, not opt in. Maybe if there was an unobtrusive way for me to prevent recording through a wearable, like a ROBOTS.TXT file, or a universal gesture (a middle finger, or a grimace) to indicate my desire to be erased from your recording, I would consider it. I would also want some assurance that my request is honored.…

Committing violence against others who are not doing anything illegal seems like a pretty easy way for you to lose a lot of privacy.

Edit: OP removed their reference to punching people who would dare film them. This thread will no longer make sense to other's trying to catch up.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by KaiserPro »

sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

In terms of privacy its as bad as phones in top pockets. At least with glasses they tend to have recording lights.

Moreover its really hard to upskirt with glasses on your head. mobile phones however are super easy, as I witnessed last year.

As a capture device, smart glasses are a dead end. When they have a display, and a ergonmic input system, then they'll replace smartphones

oh and 100x battery density.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by operatingthetan »

function_seven wrote: post #133
l33t7332273 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do this generally while doing some kind of movement based activity, the kind of activity where you need to strap a camera on, not wear a set ofglasses.

Can you list activities that you're thinking of? Because a lot of active sports are compatible with "wearing glasses". Surfing, snowboarding, rock climbing, water skiing, mountain biking, etc. Sure, scuba divers still need some specialized gear, but there's tons of room in the sports segment for this kind of product.

> Because a lot of active sports are compatible with "wearing glasses". Surfing, snowboarding, rock climbing, water skiing, mountain biking, etc.

I would not say any of those are compatible with wearing fashion-style sunglasses. I've lost pairs of glasses paddleboarding and kayaking before. I'm a mountain biker as well and crashes can be violent, I wouldn't trust glasses to stay on your face. All of those sports require firm attachment for a device worth more than say $100.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by jeremyjh »

Animats wrote: post #100
jeremyjh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Meta glasses don’t have a display, it’s just camera and audio.

Huh? Then how do they deliver ads?

Presumably they monetize by selling your real-time location and live video feed to your local surveillance authorities or political enemies.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by SantalBlush »

Animats wrote: post #100
jeremyjh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Meta glasses don’t have a display, it’s just camera and audio.

Huh? Then how do they deliver ads?

They deliver ads to the people being filmed with the glasses, once they're identified and tracked by facebook.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by callalex »

samtheprogram wrote: post #139
kstrauser wrote: post #99

I don't hate them. I just wish it were almost any other giant company that was making them. If someone showed up at my house wearing them, I think I'd make them take their glasses off before they came inside, in much the same way (and for the same reasons) that some people don't allow shoes in the house. I don't want someone tracking Facebook into my living room. Maybe the only worse maker would be Twitter. If a frie…

> Maybe the only worse maker would be Twitter. If a friend came over wearing Musk glasses, I'd probably rip them off their head and stamp on them for their own good. I definitely would not allow them into my house. You might have gotten caught up in an ideology. I make fun of Elon and what he's doing to Twitter as much as the next guy, but... What do you imagine would be so harmful about them? Tracking, like with you…

Musk companies have a proven track record of handling private data inappropriately. For example Tesla employees were caught sharing footage from vehicles on private property with their friends. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...
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