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Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by HellDunkel »

phowat wrote: post #118
HellDunkel wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you were using a Quest 2 for month before you decided the resolution is generations away from beeing good enough? :)

Yes, I knew I would need to live with some annoyances if I wanted to be an early adopter on this. I tried to adapt but in the end it was just too much of an inconvenience. And while my quest 2 is indeed currently collecting dust, I don't think headsets are a bad idea. Just that their current implementations are not good enough for my use case. Regardless of that, I'm optimistic about the future of using an HMD as you…

Many here want/wanted the same thing. It has always puzzled me why. I like to use a piece of paper next to the computer and i also like the look and feel of a nice wooden desk and the sound of a pair of decend speakers. No matter how great the headset, i fail to see it as an improvement except for some very specific usecases.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by smeeth »

MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

Similar to the vision pro the killer app will eventually be AR.

Its pretty obvious that virtual TV/Computer screens at arbitrary sizes/distances in arbitrary environments will simply be a better UX than physical monitors.

Not sure if Quest 3 is there yet, but they're iterating towards it.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by serf »

Farbklex wrote: post #147

I am just waiting until Valve releases an open, PC based competitor to the meta quest.

when has Valve released anything 'open'? (at least with regards to end-user products..)

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by footlose_3815 »

I tried a 2 and it was a sterile, and walled-garden experience. Getting Steam to work on it felt like all workarounds. Lots of accuracy and user experience issues that made me return it. I expect no different with this.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by phowat »

HellDunkel wrote: post #161
phowat wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I knew I would need to live with some annoyances if I wanted to be an early adopter on this. I tried to adapt but in the end it was just too much of an inconvenience. And while my quest 2 is indeed currently collecting dust, I don't think headsets are a bad idea. Just that their current implementations are not good enough for my use case. Regardless of that, I'm optimistic about the future of using an HMD as you…

Many here want/wanted the same thing. It has always puzzled me why. I like to use a piece of paper next to the computer and i also like the look and feel of a nice wooden desk and the sound of a pair of decend speakers. No matter how great the headset, i fail to see it as an improvement except for some very specific usecases.

Honestly, the answer might just be: "Because it's freaking cool!" and I totally understand why that doesn't appeal to you.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by itsyaboi »

MBCook wrote: post #148
itsyaboi wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XBox cloud gaming is pretty big. Roblox is huge with kids as well.

That seems to reinforce my point to me. Both of those are available on other platforms. They don’t need the Quest 3. Why not just buy an Xbox? What makes me need a Quest 3 ?

You can buy an XBox, but you won't be able to do anything VR related with it, so not sure what your point is.

It sounds like you've convinced yourself you don't need the quest, so just don't worry about it?

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by crooked-v »

Waterluvian wrote: post #71

Counter-intuitively, I think I'd be able to manage a headset better if it wasn't this box strapped to the front of my face, but rather an evenly balanced hockey helmet with a flip-up mask. I can do hours wearing a hockey helmet, but these things are uncomfortable after a little while, and I think it's because it's just a more balanced thing that my neck muscles aren't constantly counteracting. Not to suggest that tha…

BOBOVR does something similar as a third-party add-on (https://www.bobovr.com/product/m2pro/). It's not quite a full welding mask design but the weight is meant to sit in a similar way. I'm sure they'll have something similar for the Quest 3 before too long.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by rtkwe »

smeeth wrote: post #162
MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

Similar to the vision pro the killer app will eventually be AR. Its pretty obvious that virtual TV/Computer screens at arbitrary sizes/distances in arbitrary environments will simply be a better UX than physical monitors. Not sure if Quest 3 is there yet, but they're iterating towards it.

There's an underlying issue with the whole AR screen thing. They're heavily limited by the resolution of the screen in the goggles itself. These have a bit over half a 4k display per eye so you can only really have display resolutions of some fraction of that determined by what fraction of the area of a given eye display the fake screen takes up. If you blow it up until you're only looking at a portion of the screen you can have a larger one but then you're stuck to moving your head around to see your whole monitor. It's one of the big issues with the whole AR screen idea we'll need pretty beefy hardware to work around.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by MBCook »

supernikio2 wrote: post #157
MBCook wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that won’t help Meta. This really feels like a Quest 2 + 1, which is fine. Same but better specs. But the site appears to me like it’s positioning it as a Vision Pro competitor when it’s not even in the same league. “We have AR too so it’s the same!” The Vision Pro seems very clearly marketed at a different segment and primary use case to me. The problem is that if Apple (or a 3rd party on the platform) figures i…

I feel like the "killer app problem" is not unique to the Quest, but the whole VR ecosystem. I'm being cautiously optimistic Apple will finally break through and find an app that will appeal to the masses, and even though the price is not attainable for 95% of the population, that will trickle down and find it's way to the broader market.

I agree fully. It’s not unique to the Quest. They’re just the most successful player so far (I think).

Apple isn’t target VR (though it works), they’re trying something different. So I’m curious if it succeeds.

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