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Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by layer8 »

MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

> This feels very “PC” to me. By which I mean they’re selling it because they can sell new hardware. The Pentium 9 is out! Which is fine.

I mean, the same is happening for smartphones and tablets. Yes, it won’t dramatically grow the market.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by dougmwne »

MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

My personal killer app was enjoying the LiDAR imagery in Google Earth VR. Wish that it was actively developed and released for standalone.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by circuit10 »

phkahler wrote: post #95
Waterluvian wrote: post #71

Counter-intuitively, I think I'd be able to manage a headset better if it wasn't this box strapped to the front of my face, but rather an evenly balanced hockey helmet with a flip-up mask. I can do hours wearing a hockey helmet, but these things are uncomfortable after a little while, and I think it's because it's just a more balanced thing that my neck muscles aren't constantly counteracting. Not to suggest that tha…

There were add-on batteries for the Quest 2 that would attach to the back of the headset, thereby improving the balance which adding battery life. I never tried one.

I’d rather they’d just move the built in battery

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by robotnikman »

Panini_Jones wrote: post #106
cm2012 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a bunch of very powerful/ successful AI girlfriend apps like Replika. I think that will be a breakthrough use case for VR.

How successful are those virtual girlfriend apps?

Last I checked, they removed a bunch of capabilities from Replika which caused a massive uproar on their subreddit and facebook.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by epolanski »

icapybara wrote: post #100
Waterluvian wrote: post #71

Counter-intuitively, I think I'd be able to manage a headset better if it wasn't this box strapped to the front of my face, but rather an evenly balanced hockey helmet with a flip-up mask. I can do hours wearing a hockey helmet, but these things are uncomfortable after a little while, and I think it's because it's just a more balanced thing that my neck muscles aren't constantly counteracting. Not to suggest that tha…

I think, functionally, you have a point, but they wouldn’t sell nearly as many if it looked like a helmet. The devices have to be cool to sell, and headsets are uncool enough as it is. These companies want a mass market product, not a niche product that only tech enthusiasts can appreciate.

I mean, no one's going to use those if they aren't comfortable for long use.

Looking cool is very low on the priority list.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by pzmarzly »

itsyaboi wrote: post #91
MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

XBox cloud gaming is pretty big. Roblox is huge with kids as well.

+1. I don't have a TV, so if I could just stream my macOS desktop and Xbox Cloud Gaming (which I already use) to a virtual 50+' screen that follows me as I walk around, that will be enough for me to buy in.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by MBCook »

supernikio2 wrote: post #105
MBCook wrote: post #86

So what’s the killer app? Beatsaber and some other games can be a lot of fun, but they’re not new. What new experience are ready for this? I get the quality is better, and that’s not nothing. But other than that this largely seems like more of the same. VR still doesn’t seem to have advanced much in software to me. And Meta keeps pushing virtual meetings and such but that’s not my cup of tea. I owned a Quest 2 and ha…

>So what’s the killer app? I feel like the answer to that question will come next year, when Apple's Vision Pro is out.

But that won’t help Meta.

This really feels like a Quest 2 + 1, which is fine. Same but better specs.

But the site appears to me like it’s positioning it as a Vision Pro competitor when it’s not even in the same league. “We have AR too so it’s the same!” The Vision Pro seems very clearly marketed at a different segment and primary use case to me.

The problem is that if Apple (or a 3rd party on the platform) figures it out I think there’s a good chance it can’t work well on a significantly cheaper headset like the Quest 3.

Then the Quest 3 may be the cheap thing that doesn’t do what people want. Like when you didn’t get an XBox 360 at Christmas because mom/dad got you a $25 TV plug-in Pac-Man game because “it’s the same thing”.

But Meta wants in on the party. And I feel like they’re trying to get their sales before the Vision Pro comes out and immediately becomes the thing that they get very unfavorably compared to (except price). Just like they rushed out a pre-announcement this was coming around the Vision Pro announcement.

Even if Apple face plants or never finds “it”and the Vision Pro isn’t successful I don’t see Meta being either. All these years and it’s still kind of “eh”.

Re: Meta Quest 3

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Post by jrm4 »

no_time wrote: post #112
jrm4 wrote: post #81

Got a 2 on accident, an aunt was dazzled by ideas of exercising and meditating and was wildly underwhelmed by the actual experience, and gifted it to my family. Kind of fun to have around very occasionally, but I'm still seeing nothing to indicate anything more than "overpriced, non-essential toy." Would never pay good money for one. (and this is from a household where the Steam Deck is absolutely an essential toy.)*…

>but I'm still seeing nothing to indicate anything more than "overpriced, non-essential toy." This seems like a semi common sentiment. To those who used both a Valve Index and a Quest 1 or 2, is this also true for the Index?

So I do have access to Indexes and the HTC ones, and they do seem to have some more stuff, but I'm also curious what other people think. I definitely could see it if they had more things like Google Earth, which is weirdly absent from the Quest.
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