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or just loop the string over 1 finger 11 times?
Since the string is of a fixed length, that only works if you finger's diameter is 1/11 of the pizza's diameter.
He means hanging from the finger, not tightly wrapped.
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I think it's totally relevant, I have worked with guys that have fancy PHD's from MIT that always over complicated the crap out of simple things. It's like when you buy something expensive or make an investment, you feel the need to defend and justify it to others. It's the same thing here, you get a fancy degree and everything you do has to be complex to justify getting that degree otherwise what separates you from…
I don't understand why you presume it's a need to defend and justify it to others. Getting a PhD from MIT isn't exactly a walk in the park, I imagine the person got it BECAUSE of a pleasure to tackle complicated problems in the first place. If I really enjoy dealing with complexity and you give me something really simple to do, well I'm gonna go ahead and have some fun with it. It's not a matter of justifying, it's j…
This is what happens when you hire someone that's overqualified for a job, I guess. :) People in that situation need to find work that will satisfy their thirst for complexity. They are making trouble for themselves and others, otherwise.
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#83I hate to say this, but the article is complete bullcrap. Have you even seen the movie he references ? The protagonist is supposed to be this "naturally talented genius" who detests the bookish Indian academic education system, so throughout the film he takes potshots at the stuff he's taught in school, ultimately choosing to drop out without a degree until the Dean formally requests him to take the finals, upon whic…
The movie is filled with impossibilities, true. But have you seen Bollywood movies? Have you known the Indian audience they cater to? The impossibilities are the reason the movie did well; no half educated person is going to seriously attempt delivering a child with a vacuum over a webcam. At the same time, these stupid feats brought people to the movie, and forced them to realize how pathetically screwed up our education system is. Sure, we didn't do anything to fix it from that one movie--but for at least a few months, every time the movie was brought up, people started caring about changing the way our kids were taught.
I'm not suggesting this movie was something that raised awareness about an unknown issue, but it did succeed in bringing it to the forefront for quite a while, as Aamir's movies have been known to do. If you've seen other Bollywood movies, you know that 3 Idiots is a godsend when compared to the literally thousands of song filled intellectually vacuous love stories that we've been inundated with.
Furthermore, that suicide wasn't for the helicopter. It was after the dean called his (sick?) father, and told him that his son was not graduating that year. I do not remember the specific circumstances (I have terrible memory and watched this movie a few months ago), but claiming that the suicide was due to an engineering failure is ignoring many aspects of the student's life.
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As for the string solution--I don't really see why you need precision in cutting a pizza in 11 slices for a random customer. It's an interesting solution, one I hadn't thought of, and I'd say one that many others hadn't thought of. The point was to deal with what a cook would have in his hands, not a mathematically sound approach. While the latter might be clean, it would be physically impossible to implement with a pizza cutter that might not be sharp enough, or a pizza where the cheese and sauce still oozed over the crust* (in which case you never could get equal slices).
* You can tell I haven't had lunch yet.
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#84I hate to say this, but the article is complete bullcrap. Have you even seen the movie he references ? The protagonist is supposed to be this "naturally talented genius" who detests the bookish Indian academic education system, so throughout the film he takes potshots at the stuff he's taught in school, ultimately choosing to drop out without a degree until the Dean formally requests him to take the finals, upon whic…
I've never seen the movie. > Commiting suicide for failing to figure out some stupid propulsion mechanics! I remember thinking at the time that if this same film had been made in English, the critics & audience in the US would have torn it to shreds for such pandering & crass footage. But India being what it is, this very scene was lauded for its authenticity! But that's kind of unsound to assume that the suicide mus…
"Surely failing to graduate in an environment that places everything on having a paper diploma, including one's own image/self-worth, is more to the point of the suicide."
I can't speak for the parent poster but my criticism of the film is not with the themes, but with the trite way in which they are portrayed. I can't imagine an audience not understanding that this is what the filmmakers intended them to take away from the scene, but I can imagine them being put off by how they went about it.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen the movie. > Commiting suicide for failing to figure out some stupid propulsion mechanics! I remember thinking at the time that if this same film had been made in English, the critics & audience in the US would have torn it to shreds for such pandering & crass footage. But India being what it is, this very scene was lauded for its authenticity! But that's kind of unsound to assume that the suicide mus…
"Surely failing to graduate in an environment that places everything on having a paper diploma, including one's own image/self-worth, is more to the point of the suicide." I can't speak for the parent poster but my criticism of the film is not with the themes, but with the trite way in which they are portrayed. I can't imagine an audience not understanding that this is what the filmmakers intended them to take away f…
> I can imagine them being put off by how they went about it
Remember that we're talking about the same movie industry where a man can slap another man and have him fly some 20 feet, after which he gets up and starts dancing with a lover. Relatively speaking, 3 Idiots was sane.
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#86>php abc.php Looking for 8+8+0+9 being 6 : found 2+2+1+1 : 6 Looking for 7+1+1+1 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 2+1+7+2 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 6+6+6+6 being 4 : found 1+1+1+1 : 4 Looking for 1+1+1+1 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 3+2+1+3 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 7+6+6+2 being 2 : found 0+1+1+0 : 2 Looking for 9+3+1+3 being 1 : found 1+0+0+0 : 1 Looking for 0+0+0+0 bei…
Excuse my ignorance, but how does this work?
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#87I hate to say this, but the article is complete bullcrap. Have you even seen the movie he references ? The protagonist is supposed to be this "naturally talented genius" who detests the bookish Indian academic education system, so throughout the film he takes potshots at the stuff he's taught in school, ultimately choosing to drop out without a degree until the Dean formally requests him to take the finals, upon whic…
The movie is filled with impossibilities, true. But have you seen Bollywood movies? Have you known the Indian audience they cater to? The impossibilities are the reason the movie did well; no half educated person is going to seriously attempt delivering a child with a vacuum over a webcam. At the same time, these stupid feats brought people to the movie, and forced them to realize how pathetically screwed up our educ…
> But have you seen Bollywood movies? Have you known the Indian audience they cater to?
0. By a twisted quirk of fate( ie. being an Indian by birth), I happen to be addicted to Bollywood movies. I average 4 per month & have been doing so for atleast 2 decades now.
1. The guy is supposed to make a quadcopter fly in order to graduate. He is unable to. The Dean says he'll flunk if he doesn't make it fly. The guy looks at the wall in his dorm which says "loser" ( or was it "rebel" )in giant letters. The hero makes the copter fly. There's a tiny camera on the copter. The camera transmits aerial footage to a wintel laptop. As the copter soars, the laptop shows the guy hanging from a ceiling fan in his dorm .....impressively manipulative, yeah ? I think we call that camp out here. It was so in-your-face, manufactured outrage...
2. In reality, that quadcopter was built by Ashish Bhatt, a smart EE engineer out of IIT Bombay. He sells those at his startup IdeaForge (http://www.ideaforge.co.in/web/products )
3. Suicides on Indian campuses is a legitimate issue. Back when I was a student, there were 2 suicides in my campus, both because the student in question flunked some engineering/math course. The number of student suicides is disproportionately large ( http://www.google.com/search?q=suicide+IIT ). There were quite a few seminars on suicide prevention after that film.
4. Strictly speaking, it was a movie by-the-numbers...lets insert a suicide here, lets talk about pencils in outer space there, kind of thing. otoh the audience/critics were completely awed by it & made it the biggest film ever out of Bollywood.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
The movie is filled with impossibilities, true. But have you seen Bollywood movies? Have you known the Indian audience they cater to? The impossibilities are the reason the movie did well; no half educated person is going to seriously attempt delivering a child with a vacuum over a webcam. At the same time, these stupid feats brought people to the movie, and forced them to realize how pathetically screwed up our educ…
> But have you seen Bollywood movies? Have you known the Indian audience they cater to? 0. By a twisted quirk of fate( ie. being an Indian by birth), I happen to be addicted to Bollywood movies. I average 4 per month & have been doing so for atleast 2 decades now. 1. The guy is supposed to make a quadcopter fly in order to graduate. He is unable to. The Dean says he'll flunk if he doesn't make it fly. The guy looks a…
> Strictly speaking, it was a movie by-the-numbers
I wasn't trying to say this movie has amazing merit; just that it served its purpose in an industry and to an audience where it isn't very easy to do so.
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#89>php abc.php Looking for 8+8+0+9 being 6 : found 2+2+1+1 : 6 Looking for 7+1+1+1 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 2+1+7+2 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 6+6+6+6 being 4 : found 1+1+1+1 : 4 Looking for 1+1+1+1 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 3+2+1+3 being 0 : found 0+0+0+0 : 0 Looking for 7+6+6+2 being 2 : found 0+1+1+0 : 2 Looking for 9+3+1+3 being 1 : found 1+0+0+0 : 1 Looking for 0+0+0+0 bei…
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Surely failing to graduate in an environment that places everything on having a paper diploma, including one's own image/self-worth, is more to the point of the suicide." I can't speak for the parent poster but my criticism of the film is not with the themes, but with the trite way in which they are portrayed. I can't imagine an audience not understanding that this is what the filmmakers intended them to take away f…
> I can imagine them being put off by how they went about it Remember that we're talking about the same movie industry where a man can slap another man and have him fly some 20 feet, after which he gets up and starts dancing with a lover. Relatively speaking, 3 Idiots was sane.
Suspension of belief I something I expect to need for stunts, not social commentary.