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A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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> has been taught as though it was a proven fact to generations of physicians all over the world.

Welcome to healthcare. For many conditions having a medical degree is straight up deleterious to a doctor's ability to accurately diagnose and treat a condition.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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You've got to be kidding. This takes victim blaming to a whole new level.

Uh, why would I be kidding and how on earth is that victim blaming? There's a range of reasons people don't tend to make the full case for the opposite of the thing they're passionate about. Those who can actually do so are vanishingly rare.

This is a valid point! People might feel they must put 100% on arguing for their case when fighting a consensus, because everyone else is already doing the opposite.

Steel-manning the opposing perspective could yield stronger insight in favor of their passion. This would convince people to change their minds more effectively, because most are obsessed in the case of "true SBS" with physical abuse.

I think your original comment just had a ring of "he's selling a book, don't trust his intentions"

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Oh the good old, violent Easter European bias mixed into crap science.

Seems like the bias is on your part… Which is ironic, given the articles content…. Or do you have _evidence_?

The username kinda suggests an Eastern European (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Muromets) so I read the post as a personal opinion that the bias exists.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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post #179

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Source? Incarceration rate seems to be going down in western countries: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096042

Their source could be your source, which you seem to be very seriously misreading. > As the global population grew 21 per cent, between 2000 and 2019, the number of prisoners worldwide jumped by more than 25 per cent, according to the UNODC data. So, worldwide trend is upward. > While Northern America, Sub-Saharan Africa and Eastern Europe have experienced a long-term decrease in imprisonment rates of up to 27 per ce…

> So apparently your definition of “western countries” includes sub-Saharan Africa but excludes most of Europe and all of Australia and New Zealand?

To be honest the text you are quoting doesn't talk about Western Europe at all, and I think if you exclude Western Europe, then "Northern America + Eastern Europe" is most of what remains of "western countries". Australia and New Zealand, while part of western countries, are so small that they are basically insignificant for statistics.

The data in the source[0], though, says the number of prisoners in Europe as a whole (as well as Northern America) has decreased (Figures 10, 12, and 13) confirming what GP said. Eastern Europe is quoted specifically because the decrease has been much more important (basically, the numbers are becoming similar to Western Europe).

There's no question that the trend in the West has been a decrease in incarceration rate, with Australia and New Zealand clear outliers.

[0]https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics...

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Once my kid cut his butt cheek falling off his bike (to this day I don't know how). I brought him to the hospital for sutures, and was asked to live the room while he was questioned. I felt very uncomfortable, and almost guilty, while this lasted for all of 5 minutes. I cannot imagine losing custody of your child while he's in an emergency situation for a couple months. This must be a nightmare.

The scary thing in such situations is that if the doctor asks "did your daddy hit you?" the child might randomly say yes.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Oh the good old, violent Easter European bias mixed into crap science.

It also because north Europe has one of the most toxic social services in the world, kidnapping kids 24/7. That's basically their job.

Whatever core truth you're trying to express, wording it in this way isn't helpful.

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They routinely recommend pro inflammatory foods like peanut butter. It's an inflammatory condition. They recommend sugary foods. It's a condition that puts one at high risk of diabetes. They recommend ice cream as a high fat, high calorie food. It's a condition that predisposes people to having trouble tolerating milk and milk products, especially from cows.

Is this condition so rare that naming it will doxx your child? If not why not name it so others can add it to their mental toolbox in case it affects them or those they love?

Sounds like Nephropathic Cystinosis, but honestly provided info isn’t enough to diagnose in its own.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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post #264

Once my kid cut his butt cheek falling off his bike (to this day I don't know how). I brought him to the hospital for sutures, and was asked to live the room while he was questioned. I felt very uncomfortable, and almost guilty, while this lasted for all of 5 minutes. I cannot imagine losing custody of your child while he's in an emergency situation for a couple months. This must be a nightmare.

> was asked to live the room while he was questioned Is that even legal ? Anyone trying to get between my kids and I is going to have a very bad day.

It might be a bad idea persoannly to become angry in such a situation if the local social service is authoritarian.

But as an altruistic move for the greater good it is good.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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post #220

Oh the good old, violent Easter European bias mixed into crap science.

Seems like the bias is on your part… Which is ironic, given the articles content…. Or do you have _evidence_?

Not everything comes with evidence, nor is everything a court case. If you have experienced racism again and again though, you can often tell when you see it, or you can quite safely deduce it in a case or wrong treatment, even without hard proof.

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post #179

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Source? Incarceration rate seems to be going down in western countries: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096042

The scale of incarceration is still unprecedented. A reduction by 27 percent doesn't change that. Imprisonment was an extremely rare phenomenon for much of history (as was police, for that matter). Today's incarceration rates would have to be reduced by 99+% in order to reach pre-modern levels, where large cities often had only a handful of cells in total, and rural areas had none at all.

To be fair, for much of history there weren't enough resources for everyone, much less for keeping people fed for free in a prison for decades. For serious crimes you just got executed as soon as possible.
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