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A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Adopting is no big deal. Being cuckolded is generally considered one of the biggest betrayals in the human experience. It's incredibly relevant to know if your spouse is faithful to you!

It might matter to you, but it has no bearing on the welfare of a child or the greater good of the community.

We can prioritize the child without forcing someone nearby to become the parent.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Not surprised it happened in France, they are much more of a nanny state (in good and bad ways) when it comes to parenting. Like the fact that paternity tests are banned unless you have a court order, etc.

Can’t you just get a paternity test online? Otherwise that’s an insane situation, do they expect a dad to raise a kid that is not his?

> do they expect a dad to raise a kid that is not his?

You just need a court order to do a paternity test, they're not banned but regulated by law.

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> unworthy nurses making moms feel intense shame for not “trying hard enough” to somehow magically produce milk. Stay away from mommy blogs/forums. Those are the most toxic cesspools I've ever witnessed. Things are changing, some of the newer ones are not nearly as bad, but man the judgement is super real. Nurses are one thing, but personally, the worst is family members who think they know better and don't understan…

Maternal milk is better than formula in every possible way and there is a perfect scientific consensus around this. Formula is the least worst substitute to maternal milk but going around and screaming that formula is perfectly fine, as if it was as good (or even better!) than maternal milk is denying some very well-established piece of science for likely ideological reasons.

It’s like saying that you should only eat organic food. Sure, there is lots of science backing it up, but that’s besides the point. It’s not always possible or easy for everyone to get organic food. Any food is better than no food.

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Amazing that bit about child welfare organisations fighting against the science, when clearly taking children away based on false accusations is clearly far worse for the child’s welfare, not to mention the parents’! It’s just incredible the injustice that can be done in the name of protecting children. I really do wonder if it’s cultural or some kind of innate psychological irrarionality that seems stronger in some…

> Amazing that bit about child welfare organisations fighting against the science, when clearly taking children away based on false accusations is clearly far worse for the child’s welfare, not to mention the parents’!

This is just speculation, but I bet those groups (or their members) aren't always calmly and coolly trying to find the best policies protect the welfare of children. Instead they feel themselves on a kind of righteous moral crusade, and what's more heroic than swooping in to take the child away from the clutches of the villain? The feelings of heroism could obscure understanding the harm the "heroic act" could cause.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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It’s a very simple question - one that my kid’s pediatrician asks during almost every visit. Weird that you take it as an accusation.

What's weird is that you apparently don't understand the difference between being asked that question by your child's pediatrician vs a random stranger on the internet.

The question is not weird in the context of telling the story on a messageboard.

If we were applying the default "random stranger" rules, the story never would have been shared in the first place.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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This always scared me because I don't even know what counts as shaking.

Can you accidentally shake a baby? Can my 2 year old daughter get shaken baby syndrome when older children on an inflatable castle with her jump and bounce too wild around her (she can't jump yet but loves the bouncing)? I've also often seen parents throw their children a bit in the air and then catch them. The children like it and laugh.

I'm not even speaking of law and police but medically. Can this seriously hurt my daughter?

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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> As a precautionary measure, the hospital followed mandatory reporting statutes and my wife and I temporarily lost custody of David.

Are people absolutely nuts? Is this just a thing in France or is this elsewhere in Europe or even the US? You're actively encouraging people to not bring their children to the ER by doing this crazy nonsense.

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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"What happened is that during my literature review, I disturbingly realized that what I had been told at the hospital, namely that subdural and retinal hemorrhage in infants are almost always caused by violent shaking even in the absence of external evidence of trauma, was an assertion based on very weak scientific foundations. And yet, this “shaking hypothesis” (sometimes referred to as the theory of the “triad”, si…

How would doing your own research prevent the state from taking your child away and putting you in prison for murder?

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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> It is the perfect combination of crap. I think that's being way too charitable. In a world where people are incarcerated on a scale unprecedented in all of human history, and where prosecutorial success is measured by number of scalps taken, the assumption that this is plain malice designed to let the state rob a few more individuals of their freedom makes much more sense than it all being just a big pile of incomp…

Source? Incarceration rate seems to be going down in western countries: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096042

Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy

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Is the criminal justice system in France based on a presumption of innonce?

Is that a serious question? Yes, the French justice system is based on a presumption of innocence, just like any other functioning democratic nation. It is a basic human right under the UN charter after all.

You say that, but this doesn't seem like presumption of innocence. A country with a presumption of innocence doesn't take your child away from you without trial.
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