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China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by perihelions »

praisewhitey wrote: post #3

>She points to a spurious claim that America “wants to blow up” TSMC, a Taiwanese chipmaker. It originated with a misleading video posted on Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok, which featured an American lawmaker appearing to discuss the possibility. This part stood out to me as I've seen this mentioned several times on HN in the past. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

The HN discussion isn't related to a "misleading video posted on Douyin"; it's based on accurate news reporting about an academic foreign policy paper (which doesn't speak for US foreign policy).

https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/05/taiwan_should_destory... ("US Army journal's top paper from 2021 says Taiwan should destroy TSMC if China invades")

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012442 ("Taiwan should destroy TSMC if invaded, suggests US military paper (datacenterdynamics.com)"; 148 comments)

Here's extended context of what the OP is discussing, a different thing:

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/05/12/... ("‘Selectively clipped’ video misrepresents US official’s TSMC comments")

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/12/microchip... ("Opinion: Blow up the microchips? What a Taiwan spat says about U.S. strategy")

edit: Moulton's quote is at 36:22 here—this is apparently its full and complete context:

https://vimeo.com/817736553 ("The United States and China: Navigating Strategic Competition"; Milken Institute, May 2, 2023)

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by WiSaGaN »

praisewhitey wrote: post #3

>She points to a spurious claim that America “wants to blow up” TSMC, a Taiwanese chipmaker. It originated with a misleading video posted on Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok, which featured an American lawmaker appearing to discuss the possibility. This part stood out to me as I've seen this mentioned several times on HN in the past. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense":

Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the best strategy, but because it’s an example of the debate that’s out there. And of course, the Taiwanese really don’t like this idea.” [1]

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/12/microchip...

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by peepeepoopoo39 »

jamesaurichs wrote: post #9
maverick2007 wrote: post #5

> America had asked Taiwan to manufacture biological weapons at a lab run by the island’s defence ministry, the report claimed. This reminds me a lot of the (presumably Russian disinformation) story that flitted around American conservative spheres early in the Ukraine war saying that the US gov was setting up bio weapon labs at the border with Russia and that's why the Russian invasion was justified. Funny how the e…

There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure

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Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by goodbyesf »

jamesaurichs wrote: post #9
maverick2007 wrote: post #5

> America had asked Taiwan to manufacture biological weapons at a lab run by the island’s defence ministry, the report claimed. This reminds me a lot of the (presumably Russian disinformation) story that flitted around American conservative spheres early in the Ukraine war saying that the US gov was setting up bio weapon labs at the border with Russia and that's why the Russian invasion was justified. Funny how the e…

There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure

If there is any foreign interference, it would be from britain, canada, israel, etc.

What russian or chinese interference is there when there is 24/7 anti-russian and anti-chinese propaganda?

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by seventytwo »

goodbyesf wrote: post #17
jamesaurichs wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure

If there is any foreign interference, it would be from britain, canada, israel, etc. What russian or chinese interference is there when there is 24/7 anti-russian and anti-chinese propaganda?

Why not all of them? American politics have turned into a global influence game.
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