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Are you asserting that the caution against shaking babies was intentionally constructed for the sole purpose of the state kidnapping children? For what motivation, to what end? How orchestrated? Who is "the state"? Do they have a hand picked squad of CPS investigators to kidnap children from their targets, or do they just use any CPS investigator? Are the investigators in on it, or are they just thinking they're help…
A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
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Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#12The worst part here is: He spent months researching 500 medical papers to even realize this was a problem. No way in hell will a single defense lawyer get someone to be able to research enough to figure this out. As stated, how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen. And how many people don't know that a minor bump in the head for a baby could be life threatening, but…
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#13whoof. what an ugly trip! i’ve interacted with the author, who wrote a very nice spike sorting package called `phy` that i used several years back (and iirc turned me off using hdf5 as a result), and came away very impressed with what was so obviously a sharp mind. very odd to recognize the name in a totally other context. Not very pleasant to hear about such a rough time either!
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#14I put him in preschool to get him to talk. He could use sentences but wasn't.
At the start of kindergarten, first, second and third grade, I spoke with the teacher, explained he was difficult, let them know I welcomed communication on any issue. They were thrilled and relieved. Parents are often part of the problem.
By fourth grade, my son was no longer obviously "the weird kid." That teacher reported me to the social worker for letting him know up front my child was difficult and please don't hesitate to discuss things with me.
The social worker called me, we talked for a bit. She knew both my kids. Laughed it off as a silly misunderstanding. Months later, his teacher let me know he did eventually get the memo that my child had quirky interpretations of social things.
After my son finally got a proper diagnosis for his medical issue, he gained twenty pounds in one year and this did wonders for his social skills. Then he lost five pounds.
He still felt better than he ever had and neither of us were concerned. His medical team implied I was in danger of being reported to children's services as an abusive mother.
Because his condition predisposes people to being very underweight, pediatric clinics for the condition routinely include a dietitian and yet the standard recommended diet is "junk food" because it's high salt, high fat, high calorie and cheap.
I had not been feeding him junk food, but I dutifully put a big bowl of snacks in the middle of the coffee table. He regained 2.5 pounds, they decided that was adequate and didn't need more follow up visits.
We got home and, with no longer being under threat of being turned in as a neglectful or abusive parent, the first thing he did was hand me the bowl and tell me "We are never doing this again. I feel terrible!"
We resumed feeding him a high quality diet in line with the high fat, high salt, high calorie recommendations.
It's awful to be so protective of your children and be accused of abusing them based on no real evidence. I wish this project well.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#15The worst part here is: He spent months researching 500 medical papers to even realize this was a problem. No way in hell will a single defense lawyer get someone to be able to research enough to figure this out. As stated, how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen. And how many people don't know that a minor bump in the head for a baby could be life threatening, but…
I’ve heard credible rumors that SIDS is the “parent accidentally killed their child but we won’t tell them that” polite fiction.
How did you determine them to be credible?
My assumption is that any citation to a rumor should be totally dismissed if these questions can’t be answered.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#16Holy shit. Parents bring baby to ER ... results reveal that baby was shaken (article later confirms this was not the case) ... parents lose custody for 2 months. Horror story.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#17The worst part here is: He spent months researching 500 medical papers to even realize this was a problem. No way in hell will a single defense lawyer get someone to be able to research enough to figure this out. As stated, how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen. And how many people don't know that a minor bump in the head for a baby could be life threatening, but…
I’ve heard credible rumors that SIDS is the “parent accidentally killed their child but we won’t tell them that” polite fiction.
So please don't bring "rumors" into a discussion here. That's exactly the kind of harmful behavior the article is trying to fight against.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve heard credible rumors that SIDS is the “parent accidentally killed their child but we won’t tell them that” polite fiction.
Who have you heard these rumors from? How did you determine them to be credible? My assumption is that any citation to a rumor should be totally dismissed if these questions can’t be answered.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#19The worst part here is: He spent months researching 500 medical papers to even realize this was a problem. No way in hell will a single defense lawyer get someone to be able to research enough to figure this out. As stated, how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen. And how many people don't know that a minor bump in the head for a baby could be life threatening, but…
I’ve heard credible rumors that SIDS is the “parent accidentally killed their child but we won’t tell them that” polite fiction.
Re: A journey into the shaken baby syndrome/abusive head trauma controversy
#20whoof. what an ugly trip! i’ve interacted with the author, who wrote a very nice spike sorting package called `phy` that i used several years back (and iirc turned me off using hdf5 as a result), and came away very impressed with what was so obviously a sharp mind. very odd to recognize the name in a totally other context. Not very pleasant to hear about such a rough time either!
And if he hadn’t, that nanny would probably be in jail.
the whole thing just gives one the serious heebie jeebies