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Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by ck425 »

jeroen wrote: post #30
thenerdhead wrote: post #16

> Dr Pittenger says it is now clear that covid-19 infections can trigger psychosis, fatigue and other neuro-psychiatric symptoms. A misbehaving immune system is thought to be the culprit. The idea that schizophrenia may, at least sometimes, likewise be an auto-immune disorder is also under investigation. Until I got long covid(generally recovered now after 2 years), I couldn't comprehend this idea. I felt like I was…

Did you learn anything that helped in your recovery? I'm 1.5 years in and nowhere near a full recovery yet.

Was about to ask the same. I'm one year in and had a glorious month following reinfection in August but seem to have rebounded the last week or two.

Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by kouru225 »

Honestly I feel like the science community’s disregard for religion has caused them to completely fail at dealing with human psychology. Science has spent the last 1.5 centuries presenting itself as a counterpoint to religion, but they fail to understand that religion is just an early attempt at talking about the subconscious.

So the science community continually misidentifies issues stemming from the subconscious as pseudoscience. Jung was right.

Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by infecto »

snapcaster wrote: post #26
atonalfreerider wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had strep as a child and I developed tics and compulsive speech. Also some OCD. I'm almost 40 and I still have the compulsive speech. When I have awkward thoughts, I start cursing under my breath. Another kid in my class has strep, and he has OCD so bad, that some days he can't leave the house.

Wow weird, me too and never thought to connect it to strep. Any idea what about strep throat might be causing that?

PANDAS. Known condition and well documented.

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Post by [deleted] »

markisus wrote: post #4

I wonder if these findings may partially explain the often derided theory that childhood vaccines can cause autism. The article directly mentions that an autism misdiagnosis can result from psychiatric symptoms resulting from an autoimmune response after certain infections.

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Post by thenerdhead »

jeroen wrote: post #30
thenerdhead wrote: post #16

> Dr Pittenger says it is now clear that covid-19 infections can trigger psychosis, fatigue and other neuro-psychiatric symptoms. A misbehaving immune system is thought to be the culprit. The idea that schizophrenia may, at least sometimes, likewise be an auto-immune disorder is also under investigation. Until I got long covid(generally recovered now after 2 years), I couldn't comprehend this idea. I felt like I was…

Did you learn anything that helped in your recovery? I'm 1.5 years in and nowhere near a full recovery yet.

I sure did. I'm writing a book on it right now. I have a couple of posts that might help:

https://jondouglas.dev/long-covid/ (Maybe outdated at this point but tells the full journey)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LongHaulersRecovery/comments/12iv4p... (Probably the most realistic summary)

The most important thing in my opinion that I don't talk about in these posts is to stay informed on the latest research and become study/trial literate. i.e. https://www.science.org/content/article/how-seriously-read-s...

Wishing you the best to recover.

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Post by thicknavyrain »

markisus wrote: post #4

I wonder if these findings may partially explain the often derided theory that childhood vaccines can cause autism. The article directly mentions that an autism misdiagnosis can result from psychiatric symptoms resulting from an autoimmune response after certain infections.

The early research in support of this conclusion (despite the fact no subsequent research has born it out) was pure charlatanism, bad science and the theory is rightly derided because those who continue to propagate it do so out of naked self interest and financial gain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

markisus wrote: post #4

I wonder if these findings may partially explain the often derided theory that childhood vaccines can cause autism. The article directly mentions that an autism misdiagnosis can result from psychiatric symptoms resulting from an autoimmune response after certain infections.

I thought that theory was based on a fraudulent study?

Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by genewitch »

all2 wrote: post #21
thenerdhead wrote: post #16

> Dr Pittenger says it is now clear that covid-19 infections can trigger psychosis, fatigue and other neuro-psychiatric symptoms. A misbehaving immune system is thought to be the culprit. The idea that schizophrenia may, at least sometimes, likewise be an auto-immune disorder is also under investigation. Until I got long covid(generally recovered now after 2 years), I couldn't comprehend this idea. I felt like I was…

I remember reading awhile back about a study that showed people with the flu are generally more social while the virus is spreading. There's also those nasty sugar cravings that seem to pop up when people diet, and it may be that the microbiome drives those cravings. It's a curious thing to think that the bugs in our bodies may drive our impulses.

I don't know the mechanism of the flu thing (and i have heard it, after you get infected you're more social until the virus confines you to bed), but the craving sugar thing is 100% gut biome, the grass-fed gut flora release opioids when they eat grass, which get sent, via the blood, to our brains, which make us feel good. not eating grasses means we go through opiate withdrawal!

Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by whimsicalism »

all2 wrote: post #21
thenerdhead wrote: post #16

> Dr Pittenger says it is now clear that covid-19 infections can trigger psychosis, fatigue and other neuro-psychiatric symptoms. A misbehaving immune system is thought to be the culprit. The idea that schizophrenia may, at least sometimes, likewise be an auto-immune disorder is also under investigation. Until I got long covid(generally recovered now after 2 years), I couldn't comprehend this idea. I felt like I was…

I remember reading awhile back about a study that showed people with the flu are generally more social while the virus is spreading. There's also those nasty sugar cravings that seem to pop up when people diet, and it may be that the microbiome drives those cravings. It's a curious thing to think that the bugs in our bodies may drive our impulses.

> remember reading awhile back about a study that showed people with the flu are generally more social while the virus is spreading.

Am I an idiot or is this clearly non-causal?

Re: Common infections can spark psychiatric illnesses in children

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Post by whimsicalism »

jeroen wrote: post #30
thenerdhead wrote: post #16

> Dr Pittenger says it is now clear that covid-19 infections can trigger psychosis, fatigue and other neuro-psychiatric symptoms. A misbehaving immune system is thought to be the culprit. The idea that schizophrenia may, at least sometimes, likewise be an auto-immune disorder is also under investigation. Until I got long covid(generally recovered now after 2 years), I couldn't comprehend this idea. I felt like I was…

Did you learn anything that helped in your recovery? I'm 1.5 years in and nowhere near a full recovery yet.

Would recommend CBT.

e: I'm downvoted but this is one of the only treatments with best-in-class evidence for its effectiveness in treating long covid as well as CFS and IBS. The body is a complex organism.

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