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Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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A fate worse than death. (Joke but I was a heavy Google Music user before it suffered the same fate).

That was an annoying and janky migration, but Youtube Music has a better interface than Google Play Music ever did. Though conceptually it's still just weird. A video that I like on youtube because of the video component isn't necessarily a song I want to listen to as music. Also it really needs the ability to block music from certain artists.

There will never be block as much as - on Google search doesn't work the way it used to. Imagine you blocking someone paying a fortune to be relevant.

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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HN moderators: why was title changed from more accurate "Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024 with listeners migrated to YouTube Music" to misleading "Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024" ?

Could have been OP btw. You can change the title after making a post

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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I really like the simplicity of Google Podcasts, it does one thing and pretty well.

I'm also a Spotify user and despise have podcasts mixed with music, so bloated and clunky (also Spotify performance isn't good), music and podcasts are different usecases for me, I'm on different mood.

I don't want to jump to YouTube Music, and the last time I did a research, I can't find a simple Podcast app that is free, simple, ad-free, and has desktop web+native phone app support like Google Podcasts.

I guess I have to have to pay _other_ subscription now :/. Will try YouTube Music but I'm quite sure will not like it.

Note aside: I have YouTube Premium subscription for the ad-free experience, and has YouTube Music included, but to listen to music I prefer Spotify Premium _only_ because has a desktop app, I just can't have Spotify on my browser tabs, and since I use Firefox I can't install the pwa-webapp. If I can have installed the desktop app/pwa-webapp I'm sure I will dich Spotify for sure. Sorry for the unrelated rant but I just remember that.

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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Unpopular opinion: i loved it and used it everyday, sad to see a lightweight app with no BS on any part of the screen die.

I love the balance between simplicity and utility. Ability to download podcasts for later, queue them up into a playlist, cast to a device, easily search through thousands of existing podcasts but able to add the RSS if needed, timeline for recent podcast episodes, etc

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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Not so much killed as being rolled into YouTube Music

A fate worse than death. (Joke but I was a heavy Google Music user before it suffered the same fate).

Seconding this. YTMusic is absolute garbage. A disgrace to the services it "replaces."

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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Podcasting, like wikipedia, Linux, WWW and a few other relatively "free" objects are such an important counterexamples. There's so much to learn from all of them, like theoretical devices come to life.

The inability of big services (EG, google, apple) to monopolize or gatekeep podcasting relates directly to their failure to make money.(1) the protocol's minimal snooping options relates to the failure to implement digital adtech... and to the lack of good discovery/recommendation services. The unique freedom capabilities podcasting seems to have. The barriers(2) to entry... all so interlocked.

Spotify's big money attempt to make money off podcasting is/was all about buying exclusivity. Paying big podcasters (eg rogan) to remove their podcast from other players... podcasts spotify already had free access to. Not shocking or surprising, but instructive. They very big money... more than anyone would likely invest on podcasting proper.

The market panic when netflix realised it was in a competitive market with price pressure from both consumers and producers because competition. How are you supposed to have 50% profit margins like that! Google would rather walk away from a market than concede anything short of full price setter mode on either end.

There's this point where Peter Thiel and Karl Marx are finishing each other's sentences and drinking Rum. I'm starting to think that point is a certain type of prevailing market condition. The rest is derivative.

"Google says it plans on further increasing its investment in the podcast experience on YouTube Music and making it more of a destination for podcast fans with features focused on discovery, community, and switching between audio podcasts and video. The latter is something rival Spotify has also"

Anyone remember the "HD video race?" Online video was obviously a big thing. Bandwidth & quality were big problems receding as fast as broadband expanded. Google had an in-house video hosting service. They bought youtube. Other services still existed. Google effin plowed forward. They smoked everyone with their ability to implement HD streaming at massive scale. No one could keep up.

Now Google's PR statements refer to breakthrough features like "backgrounding video" as a multi-year effort to reach feature parity with spotify. oy.

Google can successfully do many things. The are capable of making excellent products. I think they're also capable of making many more economically viable products. However... the enormous profit margins they enjoy make anything short of monopoly pointless.

(1)Google literally sell ads on those same podcasts via youtube. (2) At some point, "barrier to entry" goes negative. Early blogging tech lowered barriers to entry. Referring to modern social media's "barriers" feels like discussing the "challenge" of eating caramel popcorn dusted with coke.

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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I really like the simplicity of Google Podcasts, it does one thing and pretty well. I'm also a Spotify user and despise have podcasts mixed with music, so bloated and clunky (also Spotify performance isn't good), music and podcasts are different usecases for me, I'm on different mood. I don't want to jump to YouTube Music, and the last time I did a research, I can't find a simple Podcast app that is free, simple, ad-…

I think the point about separation of Music and Podcasts is an important one for me as well.

I really don't like mixing the two, they have two different use cases imo. Drives me nuts how much Spotify pushes podcasts when I just want to listen to some tunes.

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Why anyone would use a proprietary podcasting app is beyond me! (Particularly one from Google with basically had a 100% chance of getting canceled....) https://antennapod.org/ is incredible! 10/10, highly recommend!

> Why anyone would use a proprietary podcasting app is beyond me!

It's preinstalled on Android. Easy to get started... Defaults are a powerful thing.

Thanks for the recommendation! I was just looking for another app to switch to.

Re: Google Podcasts to shut down in 2024

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On a related note, we have a Google dot, and asking it to play a podcast, it ALWAYS resumes from the last episode I listened to in that podcast, often weeks old. I can’t get it to simply play the latest episode of random podcast

Dot is Amazon. Do you have a Google or Amazon device?

Google Nest Hub, and a Google puck Nest Mini? I never know what to call them, I know they deprecated Nest name and pushed everyone to Google Home app so never know what it’s called today.

But Google device, playing Google podcast and it ALWAYS RESUMES even when I try all sorts of verbal command iterations (play latest, play todays episode, etc)

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Or Apple Music :)

I’ve also come to enjoy Apple Music. Has the same upload capabilities I liked with google music plus it matches them to lossless these days. Took apple like 5-6 years to make the ui not suck but it’s decent these days too. Also, no joe rogan podcast being recommended to me constantly when I just want music and there’s a nice separate classical music app too.

I don't think I've ever had a JRE podcast recommended to me on Spotify. They seem to have dialed down the podcasts in the front page (or at least they did so for people who care less about them, like me). I still get some and I agree that it's pretty annoying especially when I misclick on a podcast (especially jarring since podcasts have ads even with premium!)
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