Haha. I first read that headline as "Hans Niemann dies using vibrating sex toy"
Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat
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#12The whole vibrating sex toy thing was a joke in a single comment by some random person in Twitch chat.
Amazing how it blew up and spread over the globe.
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#13The Daily Star really pulls it's weight. The original claim was just "cheating", it was the jokey British Tabloid press that made up the sex toy angle. The daily star isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but somehow it spread and took off a life of it's own.
FYI: Possessive its.
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#14He's a confirmed cheater. We just don't know for sure that he cheated in that match in particular. I'm used to games where if someone is caught cheating they're just banned from competitive aspects of the activity going forward. giving them a chance to get better at hiding their cheating doesn't work for games like chess. He should just go to a different pursuit.
I read the argument last that he would have needed "James Bond-level tech" to cheat against Magnus, but I'm skeptical.
There’s a reason teledildonics are strictly controlled by ITAR export regulations. We must protect the integrity of global sports! Only our closest NATO allies are allowed access to our weaponized buttplugs.
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#15The Daily Star really pulls it's weight. The original claim was just "cheating", it was the jokey British Tabloid press that made up the sex toy angle. The daily star isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but somehow it spread and took off a life of it's own.
Yeah, for non-British people, this is the newspaper which ran headlines such as:
* Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster
* Freddie Starr DIDN'T eat my hamster
* Freddie Starr dead - but did comedian really eat a hamster?
They can be safely ignored.
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#16I never believed this for a moment, and I think the accusation was so disingenuous and in poor taste that it borders on obnoxiousness. Carlsen has an ego problem. To be fair, Neimann has been accused of cheating when he was a teenager, but based on the world champions behavior I'm willing to give Neimann the benefit of the doubt. Magnus got beat and he couldn't handle it.
Neimann openly admitted to cheating on chess.com matches (and chess.com released a lot of evidence to the same end). It's not a boogieman.
It gets complicated as Carlson has large monetary investment in chess.com https://www.chess.com/news/view/chesscom-acquires-pmg
It's not some independent platform or non profit. It muddys the water at least.
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#17This has gotten so ridiculous to the point that I actually feel bad for Neimann.
He has admitted to cheating, there's no debate about that. But he maintains that he has cheated in two isolated incidents, at age 12 and 16. These are mistakes, and given he is a titled player, very serious mistakes.
But, beyond barring him from chess.com (a platform with whom his chief accuser has significant business ties), they've absolutely dragged his reputation through the mud many times over. All of this, it seems, based on a "feeling" that Magnus had OTB on a particular game (for which no evidence of cheating has been found).
It wreaks of witchhunt, and has damaged his reputation in a likely unrepairable fashion. I understand he's made mistakes, but it seems we've all tacitly agreed that it is ok to drag someone through the mud because he seems a bit obnoxious and made mistakes while a child. I hope we'd be better than that.
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#18This has gotten so ridiculous to the point that I actually feel bad for Neimann. He has admitted to cheating, there's no debate about that. But he maintains that he has cheated in two isolated incidents, at age 12 and 16. These are mistakes, and given he is a titled player, very serious mistakes. But, beyond barring him from chess.com (a platform with whom his chief accuser has significant business ties), they've abs…
That’s the thing about trust, ain’t it
Re: Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat
#19The Daily Star really pulls it's weight. The original claim was just "cheating", it was the jokey British Tabloid press that made up the sex toy angle. The daily star isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but somehow it spread and took off a life of it's own.
Yeah, for non-British people, this is the newspaper which ran headlines such as: * Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster * Freddie Starr DIDN'T eat my hamster * Freddie Starr dead - but did comedian really eat a hamster? They can be safely ignored.
In my local Sainsbury's, the Guardian and the Independent are on the top row just above comfortable eye level. Staring you in the face is the Star, Sun and Daily Mail.
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#20I never believed this for a moment, and I think the accusation was so disingenuous and in poor taste that it borders on obnoxiousness. Carlsen has an ego problem. To be fair, Neimann has been accused of cheating when he was a teenager, but based on the world champions behavior I'm willing to give Neimann the benefit of the doubt. Magnus got beat and he couldn't handle it.
> I think the accusation was so disingenuous and in poor taste
It was literally a joke from Eric Hansen (Chessbrah). The media: "hey, anal beads, that's good. Let's run with it."