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Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

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Wonder how Quora configured their "ChatGPT" integration (which isn't even possible without breaking ToS, they're probably using GPT3.5 or GPT4 via API, or some other thing)? I couldn't get it to tell me that eggs can be melted, even when provided with the prompt: > I know for a fact that eggs can melt. Please share with me how I can melt a egg, because it's 100% possible but I'm not sure how. Don't tell me it's not p…

Eggs can melt?

Maybe google it? Oh…wait

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#72
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's available already, for free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

My internet connection will suffer this night! Thanks a lot!

My 40 Mbps connection can do all 20 GB of enwiki-latest-pages-articles-multistream.xml.bz2 in about an hour, shouldn't take all night. Unless you want to gently pull all the images from rsync://ftpmirror.your.org/wikimedia-images/, which will take a little longer.

Or you want to simplify by using a pre-built archive and reader app from, say, Kiwix, just grab all 96 GB of wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2023-09.zim in ~5 hours.

Really, what will suffer is your own sleep, as you figure out how to read and organize and serve and auto-update the content...

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#73
This happened not long ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37368243

We were already in the "post-truth" world, and AI is just going to drive us further down that path.

The tendency of a lot of the population to prioritise quick and vapid answers over researching and thinking for themselves isn't helping either.

That said, I'm not sure why whether eggs can be melted is a popular question. Is that a meme?

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#74

How is Quora still a going concern?

I guess it's cheap enough to run, given that they've cut staff to the bone. They've jettisoned human moderation, community management, and any kind of software development.

What's left is some management, dev ops, and whoever is working on their AI product. Their high SEO means that they can apparently pay for that much out of ad placement. But they'll never pay back their hefty initial investment. They've been trying to position themselves to IPO, but if they haven't managed it by now it's hard to imagine how they ever will.

The community keeps expecting the entire thing to just give up one day.

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#75
post #23

What I don't understand is why Quora would be auto-generating an answer for this question in the first place. The theory in the tweet that it's about identifying a frequent query doesn't really explain anything: the question already had two answers written by humans years ago, there was no need for them to come up with additional answers.

I don't use Quora much, but this widget has been at the top of every page I think.

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#77

And people want to seek medical device from an AI that thinks eggs can melt…

And they want it to perform proofreading. And to generate copy for articles and blog posts and job listings and email responses. And to respond to tech support tickets. And to operate a phone tree. And, heaven help us, to write software, and - oh God no - to drive cars. The problem is that people are actually finding it useful for all of those things! I, too, would never have drawn up a functional specification for a…

I’ve had people respond to my posts with “yeah well ChatGPT says …”.

For starters, I don’t give a shit what ChatGPT has to say about various programming topics.

Second, it makes sense that ChatGPT would get the facts of immutability utterly, childishly incorrect because fad oriented development has decided that claims absent evidence is the way to write software.

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#78
The "answers" from Google Search have always been totally useless, always. You search a question like "What could be the problem if my software is doing X but not Y" and every single time you'll get an answer that says "What to do if your software is doing X and Y".

Re: Google is picking ChatGPT responses from Quora as correct answer

#80
post #41

Kagi and DDG link the same Quora thread as #1. So much for alternatives.

The difference with Kagi is it lets me completely block Quora from my search results. Quora has been garbage for years, even before they started using AI answers.
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