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Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...

Wow, I wasn't aware of this. With such amount of money raised, I would expect a more polished app/frontend. Their core open-source product as a password manager is solid, but the UX/UI could definitely use some improvement.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Could I ask why?

That means I have access to your local machine if I can view your ~/.password-store directory. I might not be able to view or decrypt the contents of every entry, but I still have access to your machine.

Ah, right, I didn't consider that. Thanks.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative, on top of what you said. For the curious, Michael Crandell is the CEO and he founded Right Scale in 2007 which exited in 2018 with 250 employees. He was EVP at eFax in the early aughts, which would have been somewhere in his twenties. He's a Stanford and Harvard graduate as well as a self-taught programmer in assembly. Here's an interview with him: https://medium.com/au…

> I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative Web 2.0 replaced Web 1.0, right? Is that because Web 1.0 was better or just as good? Or was that because Web 2.0 was an improvement? And we're a good decade or so beyond Web 2.0 now. Surely you're familiar with the term dinosaur in this context. Web 1.0 are the dinosaurs. If you still think web 1.0 doesn't have any negative connotations there is nothing I can say to ch…

You do realize that Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 aren't that far apart in time, right?

Tim Berners-Lee invented the web 1.0 when he was in his thirties in 1989.

Tim O'Reilly and Dale Doughterty, both in their 40s, coined the concept of Web 2.0 in 2004.

Tim Berners-Lee, then in his 50s, coined the semantic or executable web aka Web 3.0 in 2006.

Web 4.0 has no known origin, but the chase for artificial intelligence and machine learning was led by many of the same people from Web 1.0 from engineers to thought leaders. Many of the people who were building back then are only now beginning to peak in their careers. Not to mention, the guy you're talking about would be "Web 3.0" because the company he founded was in 2007 - pretty much the year cloud computing started.

I think, sadly, you're incredibly far down the rabbit hole of ageism.

Ref: https://ijcsit.com/docs/Volume%205/vol5issue06/ijcsit2014050...

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Huh, more negative than I expected. For some reason I had Bitwarden as an HN darling in my head. Not sure where I got that from. I pay for premium for $10 a year. Not sure what I actually take advantage of with that honestly but I just really like the product. That said, it's not based on a lot of competition searching. Am I missing out on some big benefits in other managers?

Feels like an orchestrated attempt at taking down a competitor to be honest. HN has had nothing but praise about Bitwarden before this. I use it and have had nearly none of the issues people are complaining about here; the one complaint I have would be the biometrics login with the desktop app being clunky - not a show stopper.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

Hosting at data centers is expensive, hosting at home is not expensive. You probably already pay for internet, why not use it. My home server costs me about 3 euro per month in electricity (and it is quite beefy for a home server) and it runs many services, not just Vaultwarden. Add homeassistant for smart home, nextcloud for document cloud, jellyfin for media, immich for photo backups, etc. Maintenance using docker…

Do you pay yourself an SRE salary? Including all the taxes?

Infrastructure costs are not just AWS / DataDog / OpenAI bills.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Padloc [1] yet. It's end-to-end encrypted, open source, easy to self host, and with a really UI + UX. I got all my family to use it and used it for a over a year, before eventually contributing actively to it. There's even a Tauri-based desktop app! Full disclosure: I have "contributing power" but do not make money from its sales or anything like it. [1]: https://padloc.app

"This app isn't available for your device because it was made for an older version of Android". Cannot install. —Google Play on an Android 13 Pixel 7. That and the star rating are not confidence inspiring.

Sorry, I install from the APK directly, available in the GitHub repo. I see someone already created an issue for it at https://github.com/padloc/padloc/issues/725 so thanks for bringing it up!

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Padloc [1] yet. It's end-to-end encrypted, open source, easy to self host, and with a really UI + UX. I got all my family to use it and used it for a over a year, before eventually contributing actively to it. There's even a Tauri-based desktop app! Full disclosure: I have "contributing power" but do not make money from its sales or anything like it. [1]: https://padloc.app

First time I’m seeing this and the branding/design shouts “stay away from me, I’m a student project!” Not exactly the impression I’d like to see when using a password manager. And I’m a UI/UX designer in case you wonder…

Well, it couldn't be farther away from the truth. It's a very profitable business (I tried to buy it, but I don't have nearly enough money). So I just contribute to improve things because I like it. I do get the design isn't for everyone, though, so thanks for sharing!

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

I was on Bitwarden for a bit. I really really like the secure notes feature, it's great for storing secrets like keys that aren't used in a browser or android app.

But Google is so much more convenient.

I still wonder why there's no completely P2P password manager using SyncThing plus a layer of encryption. We have this near perfect tool for making multidevice apps but we don't use it for much!

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative Web 2.0 replaced Web 1.0, right? Is that because Web 1.0 was better or just as good? Or was that because Web 2.0 was an improvement? And we're a good decade or so beyond Web 2.0 now. Surely you're familiar with the term dinosaur in this context. Web 1.0 are the dinosaurs. If you still think web 1.0 doesn't have any negative connotations there is nothing I can say to ch…

You do realize that Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 aren't that far apart in time, right? Tim Berners-Lee invented the web 1.0 when he was in his thirties in 1989. Tim O'Reilly and Dale Doughterty, both in their 40s, coined the concept of Web 2.0 in 2004. Tim Berners-Lee, then in his 50s, coined the semantic or executable web aka Web 3.0 in 2006. Web 4.0 has no known origin, but the chase for artificial intelligence and machine…

> I think, sadly, you're incredibly far down the rabbit hole of ageism.

That doesn't make me wrong.

Is it ageism to say I'd rather have a 23 year old baseball player than a 60 year old one? What about a 23 year old model instead of a 60 year old model? Ageism? Ok. Then I'm an ageist. I'll take the 23 year olds.

'But being a model or a baseball player and working at a tech company are not the same thing'

Ya, I know. But the point stands. Crying ageism doesn't make you right or the person appealing to age wrong.

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