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The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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How complicated/expensive would it be to build an open source star tracker nowadays? How accurate of a fix could you get just by pointing a phone at a sky? Or a DSLR on a commercial gimbal?

The accuracy back then:

> were highly accurate, able to lock onto up to 11 stars (even in daytime) and resolve the craft's position to less than 300 feet (91 m)

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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ICBMs have used celestial guidance since the 50s. https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/snark-guidance...

No GPS in the apocalypse.

Ring Laser Gyroscopes are another nifty nav tool in this space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope#/media/Fi...

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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The F22 had an unintentional problem of being unable to cross the international date line, which was discovered when attempting to fly from Hawaii to Japan. Given that it may very well be better to assume that anything untested doesn't work at all and to live within those restrictions.

The International Date Line and the 180-degree line of longitude have bitten a _lot_ of folks who don't think to test at the boundaries.

We had a great example of this in a recent Geomob London talk: ask Google Maps to route from Wairiki, Fiji (-16.8048, 179.9893) to Welagi, Fiji (-16.7349, -179.9439), two villages on the coastal road of the same island and about 10km apart, but as you can see from the coordinates on opposite sides of the anti-meridian.

You get "Sorry, we could not calculate driving directions from "Wairiki, Fiji" to "Welagi, Fiji"

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wairiki,+Fiji/Welagi,+Fiji/@...

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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You can see one of these up close - both the device, and the airplane! - at the Evergreen Aerospace Museum in McMinnville, OR. They also have on display another Blackbird payload labeled DEF-H. It’s a nondescript white box which you are allowed to look at, but not allowed to know what it does. XD

Not even, say, if you showed up with x-ray goggles? (Or whatever the modern feasible equivalent it?)

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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Also B-58

celestial navigation is 4000 years old

I think it is waaaay older. The north star and the southern cross probably guided humans since they had some sort of consciousness.

If you see the night sky every night (without distracting screens), the shapes became kind of familiar.

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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ICBMs have used celestial guidance since the 50s. https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/snark-guidance...

No GPS in the apocalypse. Ring Laser Gyroscopes are another nifty nav tool in this space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope#/media/Fi...

Lasers? That is so boring. Consider the floating sphere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Inertial_Reference_...

Re: The SR-71 Blackbird Astro-Nav System worked by tracking the stars

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Is it true that military branches (navy, airforce) from around equator use a grid-square reference system for radars and have issues when going further north, while triangle-based reference systems are a really good model in polar countries that doesn’t scale well when going South? It’s a problem so predictable that I can’t believe I have been told the truth, and it’s impossible to find the right keywords to search t…

The military does use a grid square reference system, Military Grid Reference System (MGRS), and to resolve the issues when sufficiently far north, the grid squares stop being aligned with the latitudes and longitudes, but rather just sit lined up with the 0/90/270/180 longitudes, as a sort of circular cap cut out of grid paper. (Properly speaking, it's Universal Transverse Mercator (which is a series of 60 Mercator…

Best bit of weirdness about UTM is the exception made for zone 32V so that Norway fits into a single zone, see: https://en.osm.town/@opencage/109694749637123570
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