Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
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Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#2This is a link to a Twitter announcing a YouTube coming in 1/2 hour. Does / did the YouTube contain the announcement?
Now that Twitter has gone subscriber only, we can't see any context around tweets. I think they should be DOA now when posted to HN as they do not allow for follow up or rtfaing.
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#3For context, Rich Sutton is one of the founding fathers of reinforcement learning. He is also known for his 2019 essay, "The Bitter Lesson": http://incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#4This is a link to a Twitter announcing a YouTube coming in 1/2 hour. Does / did the YouTube contain the announcement? Now that Twitter has gone subscriber only, we can't see any context around tweets. I think they should be DOA now when posted to HN as they do not allow for follow up or rtfaing.
Yes, it was announced on the (relatively brief) live stream.
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#5For context, Rich Sutton is one of the founding fathers of reinforcement learning. He is also known for his 2019 essay, "The Bitter Lesson": http://incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html
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Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#6This is a link to a Twitter announcing a YouTube coming in 1/2 hour. Does / did the YouTube contain the announcement? Now that Twitter has gone subscriber only, we can't see any context around tweets. I think they should be DOA now when posted to HN as they do not allow for follow up or rtfaing.
Yes, it was announced on the (relatively brief) live stream.
Thanks, is there a better link then that would let someone not up to speed understand the announcement and significance?
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#7Wow
This is massive, Rich is probably the singular guy that legitimately has a realistic and long term vision for AGI (and has been mostly correct his whole career)
Notably he left the US because he did not want to support the Iraq war and established Alberta as THE reinforcement learning hub since then. Also he did just expand the lab so I'm curious how this will be integrated.
Carmack + Sutton working on AGI tells me it is 100% going to happen.
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#8Wow This is massive, Rich is probably the singular guy that legitimately has a realistic and long term vision for AGI (and has been mostly correct his whole career) Notably he left the US because he did not want to support the Iraq war and established Alberta as THE reinforcement learning hub since then. Also he did just expand the lab so I'm curious how this will be integrated. Carmack + Sutton working on AGI tells…
> Carmack + Sutton working on AGI tells me it is 100% going to happen.
Yeah but if it's anything like the oculus it will take valve or htc to actually make it wow.
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#9Wow This is massive, Rich is probably the singular guy that legitimately has a realistic and long term vision for AGI (and has been mostly correct his whole career) Notably he left the US because he did not want to support the Iraq war and established Alberta as THE reinforcement learning hub since then. Also he did just expand the lab so I'm curious how this will be integrated. Carmack + Sutton working on AGI tells…
> Carmack + Sutton working on AGI tells me it is 100% going to happen. Yeah but if it's anything like the oculus it will take valve or htc to actually make it wow.
Having watched the announcement the (literally) singular question that was presented was essentially "Why should the man on the street care about AGI now?", to which the answer was "They shouldn't". But key to that answer was Carmack's assertion that Keen will probably never release a "product" like ChatGPT that aims to specifically wow people, that's not Keen's goal.
Re: Rich Sutton joins John Carmack's Keen Technologies
#10This is a link to a Twitter announcing a YouTube coming in 1/2 hour. Does / did the YouTube contain the announcement? Now that Twitter has gone subscriber only, we can't see any context around tweets. I think they should be DOA now when posted to HN as they do not allow for follow up or rtfaing.
Not that I'm in favor of posts having links requiring login or paywalled, you can currently still workaround the twitter annoyance via s/twitter.com/nitter.net/: