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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by pmarreck »

mhss wrote: post #604
whimsicalism wrote: post #594

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Who is they?

People that has enough money & wealth to employ others, control corporations who employ thousands and influence the government meaningfully (lobbying). Today, they basically control who is employed and who isn't by deciding how much to invest and in what. No, you cannot just choose to employ yourself in all circumstances. I'm all for being self-sufficient but not everyone can start a company (time and capital intensi…

If you don’t believe you can do a thing before you even try, then you’re correct, right out of the gate. (insert eyeroll emoji here)

All your repeated uses of “they” points to a toxic external-locus-of-control worldview. You were always the only limit of yourself. Any other claim amounts to heretical self-dehumanization. You’re not fungible and never were, and anyone who tries to make you believe that deserves the utmost vehement pushback.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by whatamidoingyo »

callwhendone wrote: post #532
RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

I'm very worried constantly. This is the story of the bear, where you just have to be faster than the other guy. For now. The bear is getting faster and faster and it won't be long before it eats all of us. It feels like we're at the end of history. I don't know where we go from here but what are we useful for once this thing is stuck inside a robot like what Tesla is building? What is the point of humanity? Even tak…

> my skillset is being rapidly replaced.

Why do you have only one? Learn some trades. AI isn't going to be demolishing a bathroom and installing tile any time soon.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by pmarreck »

LambdaComplex wrote: post #529
make3 wrote: post #521

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The real problem is distribution of the output of production. We will need something like UBI eventually.

UBI is a bandaid on top of capitalism. It is saying "we have a system where people die if they don't have money, so we'll give people money." It's not a real fix. A real fix would be replacing the system with one where people don't need money in order to not die. We're going to keep automating more and more things. I think that much is inevitable. Eventually, we may get to a point where very few jobs are necessary fo…

That’s not going to come to fruition, and no amount of dreamy socialist fanfiction’ing is going to make it so. People pay for value. Produce value for others, get paid. LLM’s are tools to make humans able to produce more value, and will not replace humans, although the job market will change, and hopefully utilize humans better.

People, NOT machines, are the ultimate judgers of what is valuable and the ultimate producers of value.

“no one should have to work to eat” is the most ridiculous gen Z meme going around lately. Like, technically yes, not eating would make you unhealthy and thus unable to contribute yourself, but we also don’t want the opposite of people just sitting home all depressed about being oppressed and not utilizing their gifts while living off mysteriously-produced (paid for or labored over by whom?) gourmet sushi. How about another common meme in response? “We live in a society.”

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Post by GCA10 »

RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

Ah, your closing question could be a thread in itself.

This is tricky territory! Be wary of the treadmill where as your income rises, your sense of what's an acceptable restaurant, vacation, car, home, etc. escalates just as fast. Then you'll always be n+1 windfalls away from your goal. If you're really wanting "financial independence," which is a weirdly opaque phrase, focus at least 49% of your energy on keeping your spending rate low.

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Post by smk_ »

callwhendone wrote: post #524
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #516

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I don’t think any of this materially changes job outlook for software development over the next decade. I use ChatGPT daily for school, and used Copilot daily for software development; it gets a lot wrong a lot of the time, and can’t retain necessary context that is critical for being useful long term. I can’t even get it to consume an entire chapter at once to generate notes or flashcards yet. It may slightly change…

> I can't copy paste an entire book chapter and have flashcards in 30 seconds. If that's your bar for whether or not it changes the job outlook for software development over the next DECADE, I think you need to recalibrate.

If I took 2 weeks off from work I could build this prototype quite easily. We're in an interesting period where the space of possibilities is so large it just takes a while for the "market" to exhaust it.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by WendyTheWillow »

famouswaffles wrote: post #650
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #617

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What actually was the innovation in LLMs that produced the kind of AI we're seeing now? Is that innovation ongoing or did it happen, and now we're seeing the various optimizations of that innovation? Is voice and image integration with ChatGPT a whole new capability of LLMs or is the "product" here a clean and intuitive interface through which to use the already existent technology? The difference between GPT 3, 3.5,…

>What actually was the innovation in LLMs that produced the kind of AI we're seeing now? Is that innovation ongoing or did it happen, and now we're seeing the various optimizations of that innovation? Past the introduction of the transformer in 2017, There is no big "innovation". It is just scale. Bigger models are better. The last 4 years can be summed up that simply. >Is voice and image integration with ChatGPT a w…

Firstly no, the gap between 3 and 4 is not anything as large as the gap between 2 and 3.

Secondly, nothing you said here changed as of this announcement. Nothing here makes it any more or less likely LLMs will risk software engineering jobs.

Thirdly, you can take what Sam Altman says with as many grains of salt as you like, if there really was no innovation at all as you claim, then there will be a limit hit at computing capability and cost.

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Post by jstx1 »

RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

> I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement

Even if you were, your money would be invested in something which is tied to the overall economy and if a huge proportion of knowledge jobs are at risk, you would still be exposed to it through whatever assets you own. Don't expect stocks (or currency, or property) to do great when unemployment is 30%+.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by famouswaffles »

modeless wrote: post #459

Voice has the potential to be awesome. This demo is really underwhelming to me because of the multi-second latency between the query and response, just like every other lame voice assistant. It doesn't have to be this way! I have a local demo using Llama 2 that responds in about half a second and it feels like talking to an actual person instead of like Siri or something. I really should package it up so people can t…

Here's something with very little latency. https://www.bland.ai/

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Post by arktiso »

TheEzEzz wrote: post #633
modeless wrote: post #459

Voice has the potential to be awesome. This demo is really underwhelming to me because of the multi-second latency between the query and response, just like every other lame voice assistant. It doesn't have to be this way! I have a local demo using Llama 2 that responds in about half a second and it feels like talking to an actual person instead of like Siri or something. I really should package it up so people can t…

Completely agree, latency is key for unlocking great voice experiences. Here's a quick demo I'm working on for voice ordering https://youtu.be/WfvLIEHwiyo Total end-to-end latency is a few hundred milliseconds: starting from speech to text, to the LLM, then to a POS to validate the SKU (no hallucinations are possible!), and finally back to generated speech. The latency is starting to feel really natural. Building out…

Wow, the latency on requests feels great!! I’m really curious: is this running entirely with Python?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by famouswaffles »

TOMDM wrote: post #100

Okay the bike example is cute and impressive, but the human interaction seems to be obfuscating the potentially bigger application. With a few tweaks this is a general purpose solver for robotics planning. There are still a few hard problems between this and a working solution, but it is one of hard problems solved. Will we be seeing general purpose robots performing simple labor powered by chatgpt within the next ha…

There are already a few research demos.

For driving - https://wayve.ai/thinking/lingo-natural-language-autonomous-...

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