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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by _justinfunk »

martingalex2 wrote: post #461
londons_explore wrote: post #252

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Emailing users when a new feature is enabled for their account isn't even the kind of thing that would distract an existing very busy developer. You could literally hire an entirely new guy, give him instructions to build such an email system, and let him put the right triggers on the user account permissions database to send out the right emails at the right time. And then, when it's built, you can start adding more…

Why isn't GPT4 running the company and handling these marketing missteps? j/k

We don't have evidence that this isn't the case

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by imacomputertoo »

nwoli wrote: post #258
Closi wrote: post #150

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They have gone from being a niche research company to being (probably) the fastest growing start-up in history. I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

At what point to you go from startup to not when you have 10 billion invested and countless employees and is practically a sub branch of microsoft. Sounds cooler though I guess

I'm not sure when a company begins to not be a start up, but by the time they have a wave of news claiming their product kills teenagers, or they're engaging in antitrust, or they're effectively using space labor, that's when they are definitely no longer a start up.

That hasn't happened yet for OpenAI, but I'm sure it will happen eventually, and then we'll know.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by mhss »

callwhendone wrote: post #532
RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

I'm very worried constantly. This is the story of the bear, where you just have to be faster than the other guy. For now. The bear is getting faster and faster and it won't be long before it eats all of us. It feels like we're at the end of history. I don't know where we go from here but what are we useful for once this thing is stuck inside a robot like what Tesla is building? What is the point of humanity? Even tak…

re: UBI. I don't think they'll let us starve, but that's a very low bar. If we all become fungible and invaluable they can just feed us Soylent green.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by artursapek »

isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #556
warent wrote: post #540

The number of comments here of people fearing there is a ghost in the shell is shocking. Are we really this emotional and irrational? Folks, let's all take a moment to remember that AI is nowhere near conscious. It's an illusion based in patterns that mimic humans.

Look at an average reddit thread and tell me how much original thought there is. I'm fairly convinced you can generate 95% of comments with no loss of quality.

This is not a coincidence, it's increasingly evident that roughly 90% of humans are NPCs.

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Post by jader201 »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #516
RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

I don’t think any of this materially changes job outlook for software development over the next decade. I use ChatGPT daily for school, and used Copilot daily for software development; it gets a lot wrong a lot of the time, and can’t retain necessary context that is critical for being useful long term. I can’t even get it to consume an entire chapter at once to generate notes or flashcards yet. It may slightly change…

This feels fairly naive, ignoring how much progress has happened over the (short) span of one year. This doesn't sound like that tough of a gap to close in another year (again, projecting based off recent progress).

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Post by pixl97 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #534
isx726552 wrote: post #464

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In other words, make your money and ride off into the sunset before anyone can catch on to how much damage you’re doing to society. Otherwise known as the AirBnB playbook.

No, successfully navigate past this version of Covid vacine deniers, 5g conspiracists etc. In ten years we will enjoy a higher productivity due to AI and a richer society as a result. We have already seen it with protein folding which AI is amazing at[0]. The only reasonable fear of AI is for some jobs and that China gets their first. [0]: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02083-2

Right, it is perfectly valid to only accept the potential good points while neglecting all the potential bad points.

This is no different then saying "Look, nuclear weapons aren't actually dangerous, if they were we'd all be dead because the apocalypse would have already happened", which is probably the dumbest take on the close calls and real risks that exist.

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Post by mhss »

LambdaComplex wrote: post #529
make3 wrote: post #521

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The real problem is distribution of the output of production. We will need something like UBI eventually.

UBI is a bandaid on top of capitalism. It is saying "we have a system where people die if they don't have money, so we'll give people money." It's not a real fix. A real fix would be replacing the system with one where people don't need money in order to not die. We're going to keep automating more and more things. I think that much is inevitable. Eventually, we may get to a point where very few jobs are necessary fo…

You make it sound simple. What's the replacement? UBI is at least somewhat within grasp. Completely replacing capitalism is going to take a long time and it's more likely to happen as incremental improvements.

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Post by HaZeust »

digging wrote: post #538
bungeonsBaggins wrote: post #498

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For context, it looks like this user has deleted a comment where they claim they "have a screenshot" of this, but they "don't want to share it" because they "don't want it to make international news". For some reason the other people in this thread expressing skepticism are being downvoted, but I'll add my voice to the chorus: I do not believe this story to be true.

Yeah this is weird. Sydney did have some seriously concerning, fucky-whacky conversations early on. This isn't one of them.

Yeah, I was gonna say. Sydney was existential early on - I'm not so sure I'll chalk this up to fantasy, but some of the things I (and many other people) can vouch about Sydney saying early on is VERY trippy on its own.

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Post by gwd »

foobazgt wrote: post #465
ftxbro wrote: post #457

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> LLMs are not "AI" in the old sense of being conscious and aware. That's not the old sense of AI. The old sense of AI is like a tree search that plays chess or a rules engine that controls a factory.

Historically "AI" meant what "AGI" now means today. That's what they're referring to.

I took a university-level AI course in 1997, and I can tell you that GP is 100% correct. The course itself was mostly about how to teach humans to define what they wanted precisely enough to actually ask a computer to do it (utility functions, logic, Baysean mathematics, etc). Neural networks were touched on, of course; but the state of the art at the time was search.

Compiler optimization? AI. Map routing? AI. SQL query optimizer? AI.

I can't find it right now, but there used to be somewhere on the sqlite.org website that describes its query optimizer as an AI. Classically speaking, that's 100% correct.

Obviously there was always in people's minds the idea of AI being AGI; the course also covered Searle's Chinese Room argument and so on, "strong AI" vs "weak AI" and so on. But the nuts and bolts of artificial intelligence research was nowhere near anything like an AGI.

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Post by warent »

artursapek wrote: post #564
isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #556

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at an average reddit thread and tell me how much original thought there is. I'm fairly convinced you can generate 95% of comments with no loss of quality.

This is not a coincidence, it's increasingly evident that roughly 90% of humans are NPCs.

This is the classic teenage thought of sitting in a bus / subway looking at everyone thinking they're sheep without their own thoughts or much awareness.

For everyone who we think is an NPC, there are people who think we are the NPCs. This way of thinking is boring at best, but frankly can be downright dangerous. Everyone has a rich inner world despite shallow immature judgements being made.

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