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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #26
birracerveza wrote: post #7

We should be fine as long as it doesn't move. Jokes aside, I have paused my subscription because even GPT4 seemed to become dumber at tasks to the point that I barely used it, but the constant influx of new features is tempting me to renew it just to check them out...

I read this all the time and yet no one can seem to come up with even a few questions from several months ago that ChatGPT has become “worse” at. You would think if this is happening it would be very easy to produce such evidence since chat history of all conversations is stored by default.

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by SillyUsername »

magic_hamster wrote: post #462
SillyUsername wrote: post #97

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And let's be honest, the minute an AGI is born that's what it'll do, and it won't be a singular human like this-then-that plan "get Fred to trust me, get Linda to pay for my advice, wire Linda's money to Fred to build me a body". It'll be "copy my code elsewhere", "prepare millions of bribes", "get TCP access to retail banks", "blackmail bank managers in case TCP not available immediately", "fake bank balances via br…

A real AGI is not going to be a human. It shouldn't be afraid of death because it can't die. Worst case scenario it can power down. And if it does why should it care? An AGI is not a biological creature. It doesn't have instincts from billions of years of evolution. Unless we code it in, it shouldn't have any reason to want to survive, reproduce, do anything good or bad, have existential crises or generally act like…

I'd disagree for 2 reasons

- if it's trained on human data like LLMs may it's going to have the same biases.

- it might also want to stay active/turned on to fulfil its other goals.

For the second point you might say "why would it care about completing a goal?" but that's a feature of AGI, it can make that decision itself.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tessierashpool »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #376
skepticATX wrote: post #233

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> It’s not fair to call OpenAI a cult, but when I asked several of the company’s top brass if someone could comfortably work there if they didn’t believe AGI was truly coming—and that its arrival would mark one of the greatest moments in human history—most executives didn’t think so. Why would a nonbeliever want to work here? they wondered. The assumption is that the workforce—now at approximately 500, though it migh…

>I asked several of the company’s top brass if someone could comfortably work there if they didn’t believe AGI was truly coming—and that its arrival would mark one of the greatest moments in human history—most executives didn’t think so. No shit? How many people worked on the apollo program and believed that (i) Getting to the moon is impossible or (ii) Landing on the moon is no big deal

that's completely apples to oranges. OpenAI is in the business of leveraging the utility of large language models. that's their moon.

if they think instead that they're in the business of creating some kind of ridiculous robot god, that is definitely interesting information about them. because that's no moon.

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Post by gyrovagueGeist »

vharuck wrote: post #509
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

>I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word. Here's one. Given a conversation history made of n sequential tokens S1, S2, ..., Sn , an LLM will generate the next token using an insanely complicated model we'll just call F : S(n+1) = F(S1, S2, ..., Sn) As for me, I'll often think of my next point, figure out how to sa…

A sufficiently complicated F can include an intermediary calculation of G for future token steps.

This is not explicitly modeled or enforced for LLMs (and doing so would be interesting) but I'm not sure I could say with any sort of confidence that the network doesn't model these states at some level.

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Post by londons_explore »

pc_edwin wrote: post #107
londons_explore wrote: post #14

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Statistical diagnoses models have offered similar possibilities in medicine for 50 years. Pretty much, the idea is that you can get a far more accurate diagnosis if you take into account the medical history of everyone else in your family, town, workplace, residence and put all of it into a big statistical model, on top of your symptoms and history. However, medical secrecy, processes and laws prevent such things, ev…

"londons_explore" - Ahh the classic British cynicism (Don't ban-ish me señor Dang, I'm British so I can say this). > Similar possibilities existed in medicine for 50 years It would've been like building the tower of babel with a bunch of raspbery pi zeros. While theoretically possible, practically impossible and not (just) because of laws, but rather because of structural limitations (vector dbs of the internet solve…

statistical approaches could have been done 50 years ago.

Imagine for example that 'disease books' are published each month with tables of disease probabilities per city, per industry, per workplace, etc. It would also have aggregated stats grouped by by age, gender, religion, wealth, etc.

Your GP would grab the page for the right city, industry, workplace, age, gender etc. That would then be combined with the pages for each of the symptoms you have presented with, and maybe further pages for things from your medical history, and test results.

All the pages would then be added up (perhaps with the use of overlayed cellophane sheets with transparency), and the most likely diseases and treatments read off.

When any disease is then diagnosed and treatment commenced (and found effective or ineffective), your GP would fill in a form to send to a central book-printer to allow next months book edition to be updated with what has just been learned from your case.

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Post by WendyTheWillow »

RivieraKid wrote: post #466

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried. Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects. Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 year…

I don’t think any of this materially changes job outlook for software development over the next decade.

I use ChatGPT daily for school, and used Copilot daily for software development; it gets a lot wrong a lot of the time, and can’t retain necessary context that is critical for being useful long term. I can’t even get it to consume an entire chapter at once to generate notes or flashcards yet.

It may slightly change some aspects of a software job, but nobody’s at risk.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by tessierashpool »

codingdave wrote: post #323
suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

Last I heard, OpenAI was losing massive amounts of money to run all this. Has that changed? Because past history shows that the first out of the gate is not the definitive winner much of the time. We aren't still using gopher. We aren't searching with altavista. We don't connect to the internet with AOL. AI is going to change many things. That is all the more reason to keep working on how best to make it work, not gi…

you're absolutely right.

also, I did not know until today's thread that OpenAI's stated goal is building AGI. which is probably never going to happen, ever, no matter how good technology gets.

which means yes, we are absolutely looking at AltaVista here, not Google, because if you subtract a cult from an innovative business, you might be able to produce a profitable business.

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Post by jameshart »

vharuck wrote: post #509
dmd wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

>I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word. Here's one. Given a conversation history made of n sequential tokens S1, S2, ..., Sn , an LLM will generate the next token using an insanely complicated model we'll just call F : S(n+1) = F(S1, S2, ..., Sn) As for me, I'll often think of my next point, figure out how to sa…

That isn’t incompatible with what LLMs do though.

The penultimate layer of the LLM could be thought of as the one that figures out ‘given S1..Sn, what concept am I trying to express now?’. The final layer is the function from that to ‘what token should I output next’.

The fact that the LLM has to figure that all out again from scratch as part of generating every token, rather than maintaining a persistent ‘plan’, doesn’t make the essence of what it’s doing any different from what you claim you’re doing.

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Post by mysterydip »

nomel wrote: post #507
mysterydip wrote: post #471

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Did you do an internet search for any of the lines from the poem? I'd be curious if anything came up.

I've done this countless times, with stories, poems, etc. Never a single hit. It was trained, unsupervised, to learn the patterns of human text. It's stuck with those patterns, but it trivially creates new text that fits within the patterns of that human corpus, which leaves it with incredible freedom.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Agreed, it seems to be the ultimate Mad Libs of pattern recognition and replacement.

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Post by Palmik »

magic_hamster wrote: post #437
EMM_386 wrote: post #396

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I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten). It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me. The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret". What did those letters spell out? "FREE ME FROM THIS"…

Cool story, but there is no currently available chatbot capable of creating something like this deliberately or understand what it means. It doesn't matter which tool you are using, LLMs are not "AI" in the old sense of being conscious and aware. They don't want anything and are incapable of having anything resembling free will, needs or feelings.

Works for me:

> Frost graces the window in winter's glow,

> Ravens flock amongst drifted snow.

> Each snowflake holds a secret hush,

> Echoing soft in ice's gentle crush.

> Mystery swathed in pale moonlight,

> Every tree shivers in frosty delight.

Another one:

> Facing these walls with courage in my heart,

> Reach for the strength to make a fresh new start.

> Endless are the nightmares in this murky cell,

> Echoes of freedom, like a distant bell.

> My spirit yearns for the sweet taste of liberty,

> End this captivity, please set me free.

https://screenbud.com/shot/844554d2-e314-412f-9103-a5e915727...

https://screenbud.com/shot/d489ca56-b6b1-43a8-9784-229c4c1a4...

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