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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by amq »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #199
bad_user wrote: post #39

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

1Password’s additional secret password to log in is an absolute non-starter for our corporation. I could barely understand it myself let alone explain it to our lowest understanding employees.

What are you using then? Because Bitwarden also requires an additional secret.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by belthesar »

johnchristopher wrote: post #166
tiffanyh wrote: post #13

FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...

The flack bitwarden takes in almost every submission about how they are tainted because of VC investments is getting boring.

I can understand your position, but there's more than a few of us that have watched some of our favorite products pursue new verticals for the sake of making more money, losing focus on what made them great in the first place, and ultimately dying, forcing us to pivot to some replacement that is better not because its made some revolutionary improvement to the problem space, but because it's less distracted.

All that to say, every time you hear someone talking about this, it's not because they want to talk crap about Bitwarden, it's because they are afraid of getting too sucked into yet another product that works well, only to have to leave when the company's leadership loses focus. Largely because they received pressure from investors trying to 10x their investment in the short term when they could have received sustainable dividends over time.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by walteweiss »

Oh, how much I enjoy those infinite discussions about password management software, looking from my pass¹ side. I cannot imagine migrating from pass anywhere, I have almost a thousand of entries there (my and my family’s plus some friends). The funniest part those discussion well never cease to appear. And they are so much alike, again and again!

[1] — https://www.passwordstore.org/

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by toyg »

coder543 wrote: post #214
toyg wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It lacks the one feature most of the world cares about, though: support for Android.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onepasswor... What are you talking about ?

1password started on iOS and for a long time it was Apple-only. I've not checked it in ages, and when I went on the homepage today I probably got confused by their copy in the Products menu, which says "Go passwordless today and start using passkeys with 1Password in the browser and 1Password for iOS". I guess it's some specific feature only available in those versions, but I read it as them still having only iOS and web. Even if that's not the case, having features limited to the Apple world shows that Android support continues to be an afterthought.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by walteweiss »

walteweiss wrote: post #233

Oh, how much I enjoy those infinite discussions about password management software, looking from my pass¹ side. I cannot imagine migrating from pass anywhere, I have almost a thousand of entries there (my and my family’s plus some friends). The funniest part those discussion well never cease to appear. And they are so much alike, again and again! [1] — https://www.passwordstore.org/

To anyone wondering whether I would recommend pass for family and non-techy friends. No, I wouldn’t. I just recommend them to use whatever is built into their smartphones (usually Apple’s or Google’s). Those integrated tools are plenty for their 15 entries. And I may back up the crucial ones to my pass vault, just in case of a smartphone loss or anything that may never happen, just to keep my peace of mind. That works for me and my close ones quite well.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by jrm4 »

bad_user wrote: post #39

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

"Bitwarden also took VC investments. Which is fine."

Nope. With that, you've quite literally convinced me to not just avoid it forever, but to also recommend others do the same.

VC investments means "they're gonna want money back at some point," and the service they provide is too important to have that hanging in the air, especially given how badly MANY other VC backed things have screwed things up.

You've effectively told me, there's a serious, if not likely, chance that they will at some point screw me and my passwords over if I don't pay them ransom (or engage in some other similarly drastic behavior that I haven't even considered yet)

Kill this garbage now.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by coder543 »

toyg wrote: post #234
coder543 wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onepasswor... What are you talking about ?

1password started on iOS and for a long time it was Apple-only. I've not checked it in ages, and when I went on the homepage today I probably got confused by their copy in the Products menu, which says "Go passwordless today and start using passkeys with 1Password in the browser and 1Password for iOS". I guess it's some specific feature only available in those versions, but I read it as them still having only iOS and…

Their Android client has been maintained for over a decade, from what I can see. It’s not something even remotely recent as you’re implying. I’ve used the Android client and it works great.

Passkeys aren’t supported in 1Password on Android because Google has not released APIs to allow that. Not because Android support is an afterthought. Which you would know if you had researched this: https://blog.1password.com/save-use-passkeys-web-ios/

Your comments on this topic are woefully out of date and wrong.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by bruh2 »

jrm4 wrote: post #236
bad_user wrote: post #39

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

"Bitwarden also took VC investments. Which is fine." Nope. With that, you've quite literally convinced me to not just avoid it forever, but to also recommend others do the same. VC investments means "they're gonna want money back at some point," and the service they provide is too important to have that hanging in the air, especially given how badly MANY other VC backed things have screwed things up. You've effective…

Do you have any examples of startups that went to shit due to VC funding? I have a feeling you're completely right, and I want to recommend others to avoid it. I might need some examples to back this up though:)

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by tiltowait »

bad_user wrote: post #39

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

> I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead.

Exactly my experience. When 1Password announced the shift to a crummy Electron app, I evaluated all of the major password managers, plus some less major ones, such as Strongbox. Even with the UX degradation of 1PW 8, it's still clearly superior to the others, to the point it's really not a contest.

I stuck with V7 until just a few weeks ago, when other circumstances necessitated an "upgrade". I once again evaluated the others, including Bitwarden, to see if they were "good enough". Bitwarden's UX hasn't improved as far as I can tell; more importantly, it refused to import my secrets because I had a secure note that was too big for it. Not "refused to import that note"; refused to import anything—there's no skip option. I had to do a bunch of manual nonsense, which still left me in an incomplete state because I both need that note and want it in my vault (splitting it into multiple notes is an option but also an ugly kludge).

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by chickahoona »

bad_user wrote: post #39

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

Have you ever tried Psono? (I am the main developer behind it). Its open source, client side encryption, offers free versions for individuals, regular audited and and bootstrapped / no VC money. Would be happy to hear your opinion how it compares to 1password.
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