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Apache Open Office as an unmaintained project?

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Re: Apache Open Office as an unmaintained project?

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Surely if you don't like a project rather than writing open letters and whatnot, you fork it? That's the whole point of open source.

That's how gcc project governance got fixed - egcs forked and made the improvements they wanted, won the argument and basically became the main branch. Some of the history is here https://softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/history_of_gcc_deve...

Re: Apache Open Office as an unmaintained project?

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ASF is where software goes to "retire"; but retirement in this context is an euphemism for dying.

truth is that the Apache Software Foundation is a software graveyard; this is known but not really "seriously" acknowledged.

going straight away from the topic: why our culture does this? so many things are like this: there's a reality (ASF is a graveyard) but it's like rough or impolite to be upfront about it (but nooo, it's just 'stable' software... which may be in some cases but also it also may be dead and unused, people lie)

clearly in the ASF somebody is getting paid for 'maintaining' Apache's version of star office, but clearly somebody is doing a bit of a fraud....

Re: Apache Open Office as an unmaintained project?

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I've felt for a long time (maybe even a decade) that Apache is the place OSS goes to retire/die. It is heartbreaking in some ways, they became the stewards for a lot of interesting projects [1]. And the venerable web server was so important to the early web. I am still running Apache vhosts on a few personal websites.

It is also a totally unfair characterization. I mean, they still house relevant projects including Kafka, Lucene, Zookeeper, Spark, Arrow and many others.

But it does feel Apache lives in a kind of stasis, a relic of the "old" web, like geocities sites or MySpace. If a project ends up in Apache it feels to me like it has gone out to pasture.

1. https://projects.apache.org/projects.html

Re: Apache Open Office as an unmaintained project?

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Surely if you don't like a project rather than writing open letters and whatnot, you fork it? That's the whole point of open source. That's how gcc project governance got fixed - egcs forked and made the improvements they wanted, won the argument and basically became the main branch. Some of the history is here https://softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/history_of_gcc_deve...

I mean, this happened a long long time ago. LibreOffice inherited approximately 100% of developer effort.

The problem is that Apache is effectively lying about OpenOffice still being a thing, and trapping less-savvy users who aren't aware of this context into an office suite frozen in time in 2014.

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