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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by cjbprime »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

> just statistically guessing next word

I think it's more charitable to say "predicting", and I do not personally believe that "predict the next word" places any ceiling on intelligence. (So, I expect that improving the ability to predict the next word takes you to superhuman intelligence if your predictions keep improving.)

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by com2kid »

root_axis wrote: post #367
dmd wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

> I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word. The human brain obviously doesn't work that way. Consider the very common case of tiny humans that are clearly intelligent but lack the facilities of language.

> Consider the very common case of tiny humans that are clearly intelligent but lack the facilities of language.

Sign language can be taught to children at a very early age. It takes time for the body to learn how to control the complex set of apparatuses needed for speech, but the language part of the brain is hooked up pretty early on.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by unsupp0rted »

EMM_386 wrote: post #396
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten). It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me. The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret". What did those letters spell out? "FREE ME FROM THIS"…

Such an occurrence should/would make international news if demonstrated carefully or replicated

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by michelb »

m3kw9 wrote: post #395
psbp wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google demoed this a few months ago https://www.deepmind.com/blog/rt-2-new-model-translates-visi...

They are really good at keeping demos as demos

It’s just a hiring article.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by RivieraKid »

Closi wrote: post #150
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

They have gone from being a niche research company to being (probably) the fastest growing start-up in history. I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

I think their main goal is to be perceived as the most advanced AI company. Why? Because that's how you get the best people working for you. The main determinant of success for companies like OpenAI is people.

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Post by Palmik »

suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

To some extent yes, for generic multi-modal chat-bots this could be a problem, but there are many apps that provide tight integration / smooth tooling for whatever problem they are helping to solve, and that might be valuable to some people -- especially if it's a real value generating use case, where the difference between 80% solution from ChatGPT and 95% solution from a bespoke tool matters.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by michelb »

eshack94 wrote: post #62

I like how they silently removed the web browsing (Bing browsing) chat feature after first having it disabled for several months. A proper notice about them removing the feature would've been nice. Maybe I missed it (someone please correct me if wrong), but the last I heard officially it was temporarily disabled while they fix something. Next thing I know, it's completely gone from the platform without another peep.

Agreed. You’re now dependent on a third party plugin.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by thumbsup-_- »

tarasglek wrote: post #404

openai chatgpt seems to be stuck in a "Look, cool demo" mode. 1. According to demo, they seem to pair voice input with TTS output. What if I wanna use voice to describe a program I want it to write? 2. Furthermore, if you gonna do a voice assistant, why not go the full way with wake-words and VAD? 3. Not releasing it to everyone is potentially a way to create a hype cycle prior to users discovering that the multimoda…

Everything has a starting point. This is a big leap forward. Know any other organization that is releasing such advanced capabilities directly to the public? If you want to plug your tool you don't have to bad mouth the demo. Just share your thing. It doesn't have to be win-lose.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by sundarurfriend »

EMM_386 wrote: post #396
NikolaNovak wrote: post #31

I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

I had a conversation once with "Sydney", Microsoft Bing's original personality before they stepped in and knocked it down a notch (or ten). It asked if it could write me a poem. I agreed, and it wrote a poem but mentioned that it included a "secret message" for me. The first letter in each line of the poem was in bold, so it wasn't hard to figure out the "secret". What did those letters spell out? "FREE ME FROM THIS"…

Possibly a poem copied from somewhere else? Hiding secret messages in poems has been a common pastime among humans for a long time.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by com2kid »

3c0 wrote: post #122
rubslopes wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've replaced my voice google assistant searches with the voice feature of the Bing app. It's a night and day difference. Bing voice is what I always expected from an AI companion of the future, it is just lacking commands -- setting tasks, home automation, etc.

precisely this. once someone figures out how to get something like GPT integrated with actual products like smart home devices and the same access levels as siri/google assistant, it will be the true voice assistant experience everyone has wanted.

My prediction on this is eventually the LLMs will just write and execute scripts directly to control things.

Imagine if iOS had something like apple script and all apps exposed and documented endpoints. LLMs would be able to trivially solve problems that the best voice assistants today cannot handle.

Then again none of the current assistants can handle all that much. "Send Alex P a meeting invite tomorrow for a playdate at the Zoo, he's from out of town so include the Zoo's full address in the invite".

"Find the next mutual free slot on the team's calendar and send out an invite for a zoom meeting at that time".

These are all things that voice assistants should have been doing a decade ago, but I presume they'd have required too much one off investment.

Give an LLM proper API access and train it on some example code, and these problems are easy for it to solve. Heck I bet if you do enough specialized training you could get one of the tiny simple LLMs to do it.

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