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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by sockmeistr »

sebsebmc wrote: post #63

The Path of Exile wiki made a similar move a few years ago. Fandom was such a limitation for the community and the ads and page speed were awful. Now the Minecraft wiki will have to spend effort beating the Fandom site on SEO so that people get directed to the actually updated wiki. For Path of Exile there was a browser extension that would hide the Fandom from search results and redirect you to the new community wik…

Are you thinking of the "Indie Wiki Buddy" extension? They have already added support for the new minecraft wiki: https://getindie.wiki/listings/

It's pretty incredible that Fandom/Fextralife have driven people to developing browser extensions just to avoid everything they touch...

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by Kwantuum »

codetrotter wrote: post #77
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

For some background, the old wiki was hosted on Fandom. All the major volunteer contributors are moving to minecraft.wiki, but the old page will almost certainly stay up, frozen in time, throwing trackers and ads on kids not savvy enough to locate the new link. It is interesting to me how many games, Minecraft in particular, rely on wikis - they're very different experiences, sometimes almost unplayable, if you don't…

I remember in 2009 or 2010, when I first came across Minecraft. It was not hugely popular yet, but it already had quite an active community. I played quite a few hours of the game, both alone and together with a couple of friends. One day, after a couple of weeks or something, I learned about a crafting wiki that told you how to craft different items. At the time, at least for me, it was not clear how you figure out…

There was not. There is now but for the better part of a decade it was just... Something you were supposed to have learned from a youtube video or a friend or something.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by saxonww »

gs17 wrote: post #71
Svip wrote: post #65

I still maintain an independent Futurama wiki from Fandom. Back when they were called Wikia, they wanted to merge with our wiki, but I insisted on a no ads policy. So talks basically went nowhere. They still have a Futurama wiki, and ours is still online. Though, these days, it's mostly other editors filling in the content, I am just a system administrator at this point. I am still happy with our decision, because Wi…

They really have gotten worse and it's incresibly frustrating that DDG seems to ignore the Infosphere (and WikiSimpsons) entirely in favor of the fandom sites.

Reminder, you can exclude any site from search results on at least Google and DDG, e.g. '-site:fandom.com' will exclude *.fandom.com from results.

There's also a 'ublacklist' extension which lets you block sites from search results as well. I think this edits the results to erase matched sites, though - you're not communicating to Google, et al. that you don't want to see that site.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by nickstinemates »

codetrotter wrote: post #77
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

For some background, the old wiki was hosted on Fandom. All the major volunteer contributors are moving to minecraft.wiki, but the old page will almost certainly stay up, frozen in time, throwing trackers and ads on kids not savvy enough to locate the new link. It is interesting to me how many games, Minecraft in particular, rely on wikis - they're very different experiences, sometimes almost unplayable, if you don't…

I remember in 2009 or 2010, when I first came across Minecraft. It was not hugely popular yet, but it already had quite an active community. I played quite a few hours of the game, both alone and together with a couple of friends. One day, after a couple of weeks or something, I learned about a crafting wiki that told you how to craft different items. At the time, at least for me, it was not clear how you figure out…

People figured out from friends how to craft things or looked at the wiki. Then NEI came out (successor is now called JEI) which showed every item and its recipe. Game changer.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by Angostura »

codetrotter wrote: post #77
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

For some background, the old wiki was hosted on Fandom. All the major volunteer contributors are moving to minecraft.wiki, but the old page will almost certainly stay up, frozen in time, throwing trackers and ads on kids not savvy enough to locate the new link. It is interesting to me how many games, Minecraft in particular, rely on wikis - they're very different experiences, sometimes almost unplayable, if you don't…

I remember in 2009 or 2010, when I first came across Minecraft. It was not hugely popular yet, but it already had quite an active community. I played quite a few hours of the game, both alone and together with a couple of friends. One day, after a couple of weeks or something, I learned about a crafting wiki that told you how to craft different items. At the time, at least for me, it was not clear how you figure out…

> Maybe other people were figuring out how to craft things by trial and error?

Certainly my experience. I don't think there was much/any guidance in-game at the beginning.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by chongli »

msp26 wrote: post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

Yeah I really don't "get" fandom. It's an extremely steep price to pay for free hosting and config!

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by wallhack »

politician wrote: post #76

Doesn’t the domain name clearly infringe on Microsoft’s trademark? Even as someone who is knowledgeable, I can see this causing confusion. As useful as this is, I don’t see site lasting for very long at the current domain without an agreement from the trademark owner.

They are likely wise enough not to threaten a community that’s doing tons of valuable free work for them.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by YPPH »

foxbarrington wrote: post #68

Anyone else thinking of making a service that can easily fork and host a fandom like this?

I fear such a service may simply tread the same path as Wikia.

Also, any hosting platform has to balance user control over extensions and customisations, on the one hand, with system reliability on the other. You can't easily delegate control of extension installation to Wiki administrators, unless you give them console access.

The Minecraft Wiki is currently hosted by Weird Gloop which is the entity responsible for the forked RuneScape Wikis, and they manage the servers directly: https://weirdgloop.org/

The harder bit is convincing people to move, and trying to beat Fandom on Google. One of the reasons they picked Weird Gloop is the experience in this space - they've pretty much won the battle in respect of the RuneScape Wikis, which have sat dormant for years.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by rob74 »

teekert wrote: post #78

I always wondered why the wiki was so complete yet so shitty at the same time. I though MS was extracting value via ads. I was wrong. In MCs case a wiki is such integral part of the game it should almost be integrated.

The "complete" part is thanks to thousands of fans contributing content, the "shitty" part is "thanks" to the company that makes money from that crowdsourced content. It's the same sad story for lots of wikis, some of them pretty high profile like Wookiepedia (Star Wars), Memory Alpha (Star Trek) etc.
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