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EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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I don't think the Openreach ONT is going away for BT FTTP customers any time soon, so for now you are free to just plug whatever router you want into your ONT.

Unless you eccentrically expect to use your telephone line to make telephone calls. In which case you are rather tied to their router to power their propietary VoIP landline service.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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I don't think the Openreach ONT is going away for BT FTTP customers any time soon, so for now you are free to just plug whatever router you want into your ONT.

Unless you eccentrically expect to use your telephone line to make telephone calls. In which case you are rather tied to their router to power their propietary VoIP landline service.

> Unless you eccentrically expect to use your telephone line to make telephone calls. In which case you are rather tied to their router to power their propietary VoIP landline service.

If you're the kind of person who cares about your router, why would you care about their proprietary VoIP service? Just use any other VoIP provider of your choice.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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I don't think the Openreach ONT is going away for BT FTTP customers any time soon, so for now you are free to just plug whatever router you want into your ONT.

Unless you eccentrically expect to use your telephone line to make telephone calls. In which case you are rather tied to their router to power their propietary VoIP landline service.

Is that different from the landline service they offer directly from the ONT? My Openreach ONT has a telephone jack as well as the RJ45. I've never actually used the telephone jack, but I'd imagine I would get a voip-backed fake dial tone if I did?

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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> Wi-Fi 6's comparable maximum rate is 9.6Gbps. There is no consumer problem of today, no domestic use case imaginable, where 50Gbps works where 10 will not.

iphone has just 2x2 MIMO antena so even with WiFi 6 can get only max 2.4Gbps (1.2Gbps per antena - someone correct me if I'm wrong). And those are only max speed in labs in perfect conditions. So there is definitely use case for WiFi 7 in consumer devices e.g. VR/AR/Drones streaming cameras, remote control etc. Higher bandwidth should also make connection more robust and overall latency possibly reduced.

I'm definitely looking forward for WiFi 7

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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I don't think the Openreach ONT is going away for BT FTTP customers any time soon, so for now you are free to just plug whatever router you want into your ONT.

Unless you eccentrically expect to use your telephone line to make telephone calls. In which case you are rather tied to their router to power their propietary VoIP landline service.

Emotive language such as "eccentrically" is strange considering the decline in landline subscribers, and even less usage of an actual landline.

If you want to have a functioning "landline", why would you choose to use one bundled with your internet provider compared to a much more competitive independent voip provider?

This is a good summary of the decline: https://www.wrappz.com/blog/decline-of-the-landline/

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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> Wi-Fi 6's comparable maximum rate is 9.6Gbps. There is no consumer problem of today, no domestic use case imaginable, where 50Gbps works where 10 will not. iphone has just 2x2 MIMO antena so even with WiFi 6 can get only max 2.4Gbps (1.2Gbps per antena - someone correct me if I'm wrong). And those are only max speed in labs in perfect conditions. So there is definitely use case for WiFi 7 in consumer devices e.g. V…

And MIMO means the AP can talk to multiple such clients at the same time, even if each iPhone is only using 2x2.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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What annoys me is this: I have a TMobile iPhone 15 Pro and three Erro Pro 6 units, all with wired backhaul. Over the wire, my fast.com results repeatedly reach ~1.2 Gigs. Over Wifi, from a foot away, my results are around 650Mbps.

The local church recently had T-Mobile install a 5G antenna array around it. I'm about two blocks away.

Over 5G, I get 1.4Gigs down, though my walls, through an entire house between us.

But my Wifi router only gets 650 down with the phone using it as a stand.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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What annoys me is this: I have a TMobile iPhone 15 Pro and three Erro Pro 6 units, all with wired backhaul. Over the wire, my fast.com results repeatedly reach ~1.2 Gigs. Over Wifi, from a foot away, my results are around 650Mbps. The local church recently had T-Mobile install a 5G antenna array around it. I'm about two blocks away. Over 5G, I get 1.4Gigs down, though my walls, through an entire house between us. But…

640Mbps should be enough for anyone!

It is kind of amusing that 5G surpasses wifi when it's obviously a more complicated protocol (though, it's frequency regulated whereas your wifi is not; perhaps testing your wifi in the middle of a field in Kansas with nothing around would get better speeds).

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