FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...
What could a password managing service possibly need this amount of money for - or worse - what could they possibly plan to be doing with it to convince the VC that they will get even more money back from this deal?
Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitwarden has had VC investors for years, long before the mentioned 2022 funding. I think our track record to date shows how we operate in this relationship. We specifically choose partners that align with our vision, not just anyone that comes off the street wanting to throw money at us (though there are many). Our health as a company afford us this luxury. Bitwarden is and has been monetized since the beginning. Th…
Thanks, then this all seems to be much ado about nothing. Cheers!
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#163I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…
There are small issues with autocomplete on mobile here and there, which I have never seen a password manager do a perfect job at. Otherwise I have never had any issues with BW and the 2fa on the paid tier is great.
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
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Interesting. If say 3 passwords using that algorithm leaked, would it be possible to deduce the algorithm itself? Edit: what about digit-only password?
With a password manager, you only need to know 1 password to "deduce" all the others. So wouldn't a 3-password system be better anyway?
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#165Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#166FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
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Unfortunately 1Password doesnt have the main feature that most of us are probably using bitwarden for, self hosting. EDIT: I have just noticed this. Everyone whos interest should submit! https://survey.1password.com/self-host/
and 1Password doesn't work from behind corp proxies with custom traffic inspection certs
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#168The title is misleading. This is not fully "free and open-source". I'm actually puzzled by the licensing structure. Bitwarden server is dual-licensed [1] - part of it is licensed with AGPL (Open Source) - some features are licensed with a source available Bitwarden license Now, even the Open Source core requires you to register if you want to self host. This is to provide you with complementary services like security…
Why does everyone assume that if something is open source it must also be free and licensed under permissive license allowing you whatever? Briefly looking at their website I got the impression that it was meant for transparency reasons rather than in the spirit of free and open-source.
I did, however, assume the Open Source OSI approved license. How else to define Open Source?
Transparency alone could be achieved with their own Source Available license, so it doesn't seem like a reason for double licensing.
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#169FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...
What could a password managing service possibly need this amount of money for - or worse - what could they possibly plan to be doing with it to convince the VC that they will get even more money back from this deal?
Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager
#170I am a happy user and find it very convenient but how safe is it really to have all your jewels centralized in the cloud, including 2FA. It seems such a worthwhile target. On the other hand keeping everything in sync manually seems a hassle and in the end you just encrypt on your machine and the syncing goes through the cloud anyway, so where's the difference? I'd be happy to hear thoughts on this.
From here, we can have a discussion about broad behavior and individual behavior. We observe that at scale people reuse passwords if they are not using a password manager. End of story. Getting people to use a password manager at scale is the single largest practical improvement in account security for the general population that we have available to us right now. This is even true with the risk of a vault being stolen and unlocked. I've never seen any data that even remotely challenges this point.
Cloud management of passwords is basically non-negotiable for most people. "Oh fuck, my vault was on my computer and I dropped it on the floor and the disk broke" will be a constant occurrence. Getting everybody to properly back up their vaults is not feasible at scale.
You can separately talk about specific people if you want. If you are capable of creating unique and sufficiently strong passwords for all of your accounts, then go ahead and avoid a password manager. This will mitigate a marginal risk for you.