wth, I didn't know people read elpais.com outside Spain
New York employers must include pay rates in job ads under new state law
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#12I wonder if this will result in remote job applications excluding candidates from New York, as we've seen with other states. Although once a critical mass of states start requiring this, that won't really be an option any more.
It's for New York employers only, is it not? Or do you need a presence in NY to employ people there?
If they hire employees that reside in NY they have to make ranges public in the offer.
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#13wth, I didn't know people read elpais.com outside Spain
Sorry but why ? Should those only living in the US read the New York Times ?
Re: New York employers must include pay rates in job ads under new state law
#14I wonder if this will result in remote job applications excluding candidates from New York, as we've seen with other states. Although once a critical mass of states start requiring this, that won't really be an option any more.
California implemented this and I haven't seen any data to support that Californians are being excluded from applying for jobs.
I don't have any stats to back it up, but I've seen various threads and discussions on Reddit where people are flagging jobs adverts that exclude people from those state - for instance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/168ce1e/saw...
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#17I've previously commented [0] on how broken this implementation is. It's frustrating politicians don't see how easy it is to circumvent what the law seeks to achieve. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440358
The incentive against posting a huge range like $50-500k is that it anchors the range a candidate expects. If you post that range and then offer $100k to a qualified candidate, they will probably balk, so if that’s closer to the desired salary band you have an incentive just to say so.
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#18I have never worked in a job where you can give a reasonable pay band and routinely made 1.5-3x what other people with the same title did, before bonuses. This really only works for well-defined jobs in production, retail, and seems to bring little utility for the HN crowd.
I don't really understand this either. As you say, it may work for very predictably-paid jobs.
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#19My query with this sort of thing is always that will this do any more than remove the low and high end people for roles in companies, and maybe the people who want the highs will go to somewhere where they can be paid with more variability.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's for New York employers only, is it not? Or do you need a presence in NY to employ people there?
If they hire employees that reside in NY they have to make ranges public in the offer.
That seems unlikely, since they do not have legal jurisdiction over say a company in Belgium who is advertising worldwide for employees.