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Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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The spammer in the article makes two thousand dollars a day from his army of spambots. Even if he started running two thousand bots on monday, he'd be pulling a profit by tuesday.

Payment would be the unique identifier. Creating a ton of email addresses to uniquely identify each account is easy. It's a lot hard to find multiple unique payment methods so you won't show up as the same person.

You can buy foreign Paypal accounts for $100-200.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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We aren't on the same page. You think it generates a lot of false positives. I don't.

You don't, yet when you go to explain how it could be used you include two other signals (came from Twitter, posts many items more than once) in order to make it work. I had originally said "I would say this method would be too sloppy to use by itself. It would need to be a small part of a larger set of signals." So alright, we aren't on the same page, but you're saying exactly what I just said.

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Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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Aside from the (good) conversation here, I'm actually shocked the guy agreed to an interview. How many HN people just spent some time thinking about how you would do one of these? Not that nobody could have possibly thought about pinterest spamming before, but this interview has certainly increased knowledge of it

Probably because he knows the end is coming quicker than he said in the interview.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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If he is pinning relevant pictures to themed board and simply doing it at scale, is he really abusing the site? e.g: pictures of cakes on a recipe board about desserts that link back to a cookbook and he gets 4 cents per click through...

the obvious answer is he is obfuscating other, more valuable links that legitimate users are suggesting.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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An easy way to find Pinterest spammers. http://pinterest.com/source/amazon.com/ I think the spammer moved his affiliate tag to womansdesign-20.

How are they not picking it up as spam? The same affiliate link from multiple accounts... The description also looks like a snippet of one the product reviews on Amazon

That's how the money is made, isn't it? Something gets re-pinned by others and the affiliate ID gets spread around. You'd need to determine which single affiliate IDs originate from multiple accounts.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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post #34

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Does Paypal not allow multiple accounts tied to the same bank account?

They don't allow that. My wife tried to add her checking account to a business-related paypal account, but it was already on her personal account so they didn't let her connect it.

What you should do is unconnect it. The very last thing you want to do is to give paypal unfettered access to your checking account.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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post #39

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> simply doing it at scale That's the most abusive part. As a Pinterest user I want to see what other real users are pinning. I don't want to see what 4,000 bots are pinning.

I had a real love affair with Pinterest for one semester. Spammers or not, it is simply too crowded now. Last week, I found Piccsy. I'll be using it now in place of Pinterest until spammers arrive.

Don't you need an invite for that?

If you have any handy, can you send one my way?

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

#68
post #41

As Google is killing more and more content farms, it makes sense spammers are moving towards sites that have tons of authority, and spamming there. Can't get "buy car insurance" to rank for your spamblog? No problem, create a fake question in Yahoo Answers with the keywords in your title, and a fake answer with your affiliate link. Repeat in Pinterest, Amazon Askville, Quora, etc.

Affiliate links are filtered out of Yahoo Answers, or at least they were 4 or 5 years ago when I posted one.

You could use a redirection service. If they actually follow the redirects to the final destination, you could simply inspect the User-Agent header and redirect their automatic checker to a different page. If they pretend to be a browser by faking the agent, you can create a page with a hidden form (method=get, target=your_affiliate_url) that is submitted using Javascript.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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post #19

If he is pinning relevant pictures to themed board and simply doing it at scale, is he really abusing the site? e.g: pictures of cakes on a recipe board about desserts that link back to a cookbook and he gets 4 cents per click through...

I'm a Pinterest newbie, but do you have to be the owner of a board to pin to it? At least the boards I am following now it seems I cannot pin to them.

Re: A Pinterest spammer tells all

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Will Skimlinks (or someone similar) offer a reverse-affiliate service that strips affiliate IDs from links on your site instead of adding them? Does this already exist? (It would be trivial for Pinterest to manually do this, say, for Amazon, which could instantly crush a spam model based only on Amazon, without any spam network detection/banning required) Personally, though, I think affiliate links in social networks…

Stripping affiliate links is pretty easy, however it's pretty hard to know all the possible combinations from all the networks.

Skimlinks already ignores their redirect if the link is already affiliated so I'm guessing they could just reverse this logic & have a solution.

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