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Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Post by EMM_386 »

XorNot wrote: post #42
Izkata wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Article notes that coronaviruses binding to ACE2 receptors in the pancreas could cause this. Binding to ACE2 receptors is done by the spike protein, the same spike protein the vaccines created mass amounts of.

mRNA vaccines don't create circulating spike protein. The specific mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines is to create a spike protein inside a cell (muscle cell - it's an intramuscular injection) which then gets presented by the MHC-proteins on the surface of the cell. This is a similar mechanism which viral-vector vaccines use as well. This is quite unlike regular protein-bolus vaccines which do in fact just inject a…

> mRNA vaccines don't create circulating spike protein

What about this recent study, which shows spike protein AND spike mRNA can enter the cell nucleus via a nuclear localization signal:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9909199/

What is somewhat disturbing about that, is that if spike mRNA (from the vaccine OR the virus) enters the nucleus, there are other studies showing it can be reverse transcribed possibly via LINE-1:

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2105968118

That would mean host genome integration (DNA).

That would be bad.

Note this is no fly-by-night study, that's an NIH/NIAID/UND study.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Post by flagrant_taco »

peter422 wrote: post #41
Izkata wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Article notes that coronaviruses binding to ACE2 receptors in the pancreas could cause this. Binding to ACE2 receptors is done by the spike protein, the same spike protein the vaccines created mass amounts of.

It seems to me that it is irrelevant how many spike proteins the vaccines causes your body to make considering that most of humanity has had a real covid infection by this point. The question would be if vaccine followed by covid infection produced more or less spike proteins (and overall health impact) than no vaccine followed by covid infection. If you assume that hospitalization and death is correlated to overall…

It would be worth studying to see if there's any meaningful different in new diabetic case with regards to natural infection compared to vaccine only. We can assume everyone has been infected, but it can easily be verified by testing for the presence of an immune response to the non-spike proteins.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Post by strken »

smegsicle wrote: post #27
trimethylpurine wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are too many negations in your comment for me to understand its meaning. "I do think anyone can agree that pushing the vaccine..." "Is terrorism?" Or did you mean the opposite of that?

i'm not sure whether i should be more confused at your implication that three negations of what i said would be what i meant, or that "i don't think anyone can disagree" is a difficult thing to parse

It's because your original sentence is incoherent and internally contradictory. You think nobody can disagree that "pushing the vaccine" for "demographics too young" was..."the opposite of terrorism"? What?

I can't disagree with the statement because I can't even work out what it means, so in that sense you're correct.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Post by clipsy »

erickf1 wrote: post #54

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> What's the one thing that 200 million people did in the USA, particularly children, that had an unknown potential for adverse health effects and that occured at just the same time and that was new and different? It had to be something different... something new, because this has never happened before.... especially among children. Just think about it. Yes, the vaccine.

Yes, of course, because nothing else different and new was circulating through the population at the time.

Do people like you all just start with a quasi-religious belief that Covid itself must be harmless? I understand being concerned about the possibility of vaccine side effects, but the constant insistence that a novel respiratory virus is safe strain credulity.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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flagrant_taco wrote: post #50
ianlevesque wrote: post #23

Let’s fix this. There’s funding already allocated to improve ventilation in schools. Since the coronavirus is endemic we’re going to be dealing with these increased risks for decades. Why can’t we get this done? Let’s actually save the children for once.

The virus is endemic and, though we weren't supposed to say this before, will continue to circulate and act much like the common cold. Ventilation in schools would be extraordinarily expensive, would only impact that 8 hour period of each kid's day, and with the state of average school buildings in the US we would never seal them up well enough for a positive pressure system to reliably keep them ventilated. Unfortun…

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Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Post by anon84873628 »

flagrant_taco wrote: post #48
torstenvl wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which should push average A1C levels up...

The study shows incidences on the scale of 15-25 cases per 100,000. The relative incidence ratio may have increased significantly but the absolute increase was small enough that the handful of people with higher A1C wouldn't have budged the average.

Ah, thanks. I was confused by that part too.
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