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Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Diabetes is complex and a simplistic jump to "Covid directly causes Diabetes" is very likely incorrect. From the article itself: Diabetes risk factors may have been exacerbated during the COVID-19 pandemic including limited physical activity, increased sedentary behaviors, sleep disturbances, and increased intake of processed foods. and note that diabetes has increased in very specific groups, not generally at the sa…

Early-onset T2DM is quite different. It’s very plausible something’s up.

I agree here. An 18% increase in T1D is alarming as that is triggered by an immune system reaction.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Isn't diabetes defined as a certain A1C? How could both possibly be true?

The T2 patients weren’t fatter or more diabetic. There were just 62% more of them.

Which should push average A1C levels up...

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>Rates of type 2 diabetes were 62% higher (IRR, 1.62) in 2020 to 2021 than in 2016 to 2019. The incidence of type 2 diabetes rose from 14.8 to 24.7 per 100,000 person-years over that time. That is a huge jump. Is it possible there was more widespread testing of at risk populations? If they are simultaneously reporting no notable changes in average BMI, my knee jerk thought is populations cannot change that quickly.

Really the changes in type 1 of 18% should be far more alarming...

> Type 1 diabetes rates climbed from 18.5 per 100,000 person-years in 2016 to 2019 to 22.4 per 100,000 person-years from 2020 to 2021.

T1D is an immune system reaction, commonly caused by viral infection or other autoimmune disorder. If the correlation holds in T1D, then there is highly likely some correlation with the even larger increase in T2D, though lack of exercise will be a comorbidity here.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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There are too many negations in your comment for me to understand its meaning. "I do think anyone can agree that pushing the vaccine..." "Is terrorism?" Or did you mean the opposite of that?

i'm not sure whether i should be more confused at your implication that three negations of what i said would be what i meant, or that "i don't think anyone can disagree" is a difficult thing to parse

I'm no intellectual giant, but I can't parse your original comment either. At the very least, it's more convoluted than necessary.

The opposite of terrorism, I guess, is being helpful and kind? So you're saying that giving the vaccine to young people was helpful and kind?

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Viruses themselves are a common cause of autoimmune reactions that cause T1D. Attempting to automatically blame a vaccine for a virus that commonly affected youth with little to no sign of infection probably isn't a very scientific method of determining cause.

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>Hmm so the corona virus itself can damage the pancreas .. and possibly induce diabetes .

Long time T1D here... ugh, this is bad news on top of all the issues that the world in general is experiencing around type 2 diabetes. Add to this that covid isn't going away and we're apt to experience a few more major strains that affect the population at large expect to see the diabetes crisis get far worse.

Will end up being another long term health care crisis unless we can find some way to protect against the behavior. Diabetic care is expensive, in the US directly, but even in universal healthcare countries, it is a very material, time, and effort requiring illness that needs continuous treatment and monitoring. Especially in the case of T1 where insulin and constant blood sugar monitoring is needed.

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> damages islet cells in the pancreas That’s behind Type 1 diabetes. The headline suggests Type 2 is the topic?

If you read the article there was also a nearly 20% increase in T1D. T1D is primarily caused by viral or autoimmune system actions. The T2 increase of 60% is likely because of comorbidities increasing the over all rate. Lower insulin output+less exercise.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Viruses themselves are a common cause of autoimmune reactions that cause T1D. Attempting to automatically blame a vaccine for a virus that commonly affected youth with little to no sign of infection probably isn't a very scientific method of determining cause.

Article notes that coronaviruses binding to ACE2 receptors in the pancreas could cause this. Binding to ACE2 receptors is done by the spike protein, the same spike protein the vaccines created mass amounts of.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Diabetes is complex and a simplistic jump to "Covid directly causes Diabetes" is very likely incorrect. From the article itself: Diabetes risk factors may have been exacerbated during the COVID-19 pandemic including limited physical activity, increased sedentary behaviors, sleep disturbances, and increased intake of processed foods. and note that diabetes has increased in very specific groups, not generally at the sa…

For type 2 I can see the risk factors of limited physical activity, but type 1? Type 1 is generally something attacking the pancreas. I've been a long time T1 diabetic, and was diagnosed after I had a long term persistent lung infection. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overvi... >Type 1 diabetes occurs when your immune system, the body’s system for fighting infection, attacks and destroys the in…

Conversely the rate of increase in Type 1 was much smaller then Type 2.

> Relative to 2016 to 2019, in 2020 to 2021, the incidence of new-onset type 1 diabetes was 17% higher (incidence rate ratio [IRR], 1.17). The incidence was higher among patients aged 10 to 19 years (IRR,1.17), boys (IRR, 1.18), and Hispanic patients (1.21).

> Rates of type 2 diabetes were 62% higher (IRR, 1.62) in 2020 to 2021 than in 2016 to 2019. The incidence of type 2 diabetes rose from 14.8 to 24.7 per 100,000 person-years over that time.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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>Rates of type 2 diabetes were 62% higher (IRR, 1.62) in 2020 to 2021 than in 2016 to 2019. The incidence of type 2 diabetes rose from 14.8 to 24.7 per 100,000 person-years over that time. That is a huge jump. Is it possible there was more widespread testing of at risk populations? If they are simultaneously reporting no notable changes in average BMI, my knee jerk thought is populations cannot change that quickly.

You can be a Type 2 diabetic for a fairly long time before you get a clinical diagnosis though. I wonder if the increased focused on health and seeing the doctor simply hit the throttle on a bunch of people getting the diagnosis sooner rather then later?
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