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Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Ray Kurzweil will outlive us all, if taking 200 pills a day works: https://www.wired.com/2008/03/ff-kurzweil/#:~:text=He%20is%2... .

I just cant take this seriously. Why are Americans so afraid of death?

Not sure if you are kidding, but death is bad. I assume you don't want to die now, so why would you want to any other time? And don't say 'because I'm old', because obviously aging is part of the problem. Being 20-30 forever is the goal.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Surely that’s the reason and not the EU penalty for simply storing cookies “without consent” being so severe as to practically negate the value of EU citizens on the internet.

Cookies needed for a functional site can be used without notice. The permission popups are only needed if you want to gather and store data. And why do that if you don't want to use it? If you're really worried you can write a simple privacy policy stating your server stores some stuff like the client IP etc. (so you can do something like, block abuse) and then follow that policy to the letter by not doing anything e…

Now imagine you don't give a shit about EU customers and just having to think of what our idiotic rules are is a waste of money. And all of this because I want to use google analytics and see how many people my landing page is getting? I would redirect us as well.

I did the same for VATMOSS when I was not in Europe: if I need to spend 5 days implementing VAT rules and collecting proof, I need to evaluate what I'll make from EU customers and if that's not likely to be significantly more than implementation cost you can all go and buy stuff somewhere else.

I just blame our idiot EU politicians for restricting freedom on the internet.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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This is certainly an interesting idea, but there's absolutely no way for anyone to judge whether the claim on this page is bulletproof true, something plausible worth researching more, or just total nonsense. But the fact that there isn't a single link to any scientific paper or evidence whatsoever, or even a single person's name linked to the site (or source of funding or anything ), makes me assume this is just spa…

Hi! These are friends of mine. There is much more detail in the Google Drive (linked from the About page): https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/18ZDSe92LgLmS0sUb...

If your friends are looking for feedback, you can pass on that at least one person on the internet finds it in very bad taste for them to describe the delay in treatment as a "civilizational embarrassment" while planning to charge $20k for a dose. The pricing point seems equally a civilizational embarassment to me.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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As I understand it you left off the key reason why symbiosis is a stable state for a parasite/symbiote: because other states tend to destroy the host, causing the mutated strain to (usually) have a harder time propagating. That's all well and good when you're looking at evolutionary theory writ large, it's less appealing when you're talking about sticking a new bacteria in a specific person's mouth.

>because other states tend to destroy the host No untrue. That is the most extreme case. A parasite can make a host less healthy and less likely to reproduce. This all lives on a gradient where parasitic relationship move the likelihood of reproduction down a little while symbiosis is the most extreme state where reproductive success is only positively effected. >it's less appealing when you're talking about sticking…

> A parasite can make a host less healthy and less likely to reproduce. This all lives on a gradient where parasitic relationship move the likelihood of reproduction down a little while symbiosis is the most extreme state where reproductive success is only positively effected.

Whether or not the host is destroyed, that symbiosis is the end game is not reassuring to someone whose mouth has gotten worse as a result of the treatment.

I'm not saying it won't work and isn't worth a large scale trial, I'm just saying your arguments based on evolutionary theory aren't a sound basis for medicine. I would not take a tapeworm into me on the grounds that someday tapeworms might evolve into a symbiotic relationship with humans.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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This is certainly an interesting idea, but there's absolutely no way for anyone to judge whether the claim on this page is bulletproof true, something plausible worth researching more, or just total nonsense. But the fact that there isn't a single link to any scientific paper or evidence whatsoever, or even a single person's name linked to the site (or source of funding or anything ), makes me assume this is just spa…

I didn’t look at that Google drive, but Google search gave me: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12369203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caries_vaccine As a layman, I would be concerned about trying to control a bacterium called Streptococcus mutans , as that, to me, signals “this thing mutates rapidly”.

S. mutans was named in 1924, long before the idea of genetic mutations was established. It was likely named that because it converts sugars to acid.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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The research that found this didn’t identify PFAs in any dental floss but instead found a correlation in blood levels in the (small number of) participants. They detected fluorine in the floss and assumed that meant PFAs (Perfluoroalkoxy). This is a really bizarre leap because the floss is made of PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene), which has fluorine, but is unrelated to PFAs even if you squint, despite both being fluro…

I mean these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Interdental-Original-0-4-1-5mm-effe... The problem is that when they encounter a sharp edge, they get torn or cut off. I doubt there has been any research on the ingestion of nylon cuttings, which is why I would prefer to find something as effective but known to be safe.

Yeah sorry I was referring to the dental floss comment I responded to. There’s a lingering belief that PTFE is bad for you, which had more to do with its original production method than the substance itself. Modern PTFE is safe.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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A conversation with my friend who was a dentistry student, ~2013. > [The friend, let's call her L, trying to dissuade me from drinking some fizzy drink] > J: But I won't get a cavity if the liquid doesn't touch my teeth. > L: Cavities are caused by the ensuing low ph environment, not by contact with teeth > J: Does that mean I can drink as much of it as I want as long as I rinse my mouth with water afterwards? > L, w…

This conflicts with some advice I have previously heard, so would be interested in any hard research for or against.

I was told that if you vomit, you should not brush or rinse your mouth. You are only moving the low pH stomach acid around your mouth and exposing more teeth to the acidic environment. Instead you should try to neutralize the acid (baking powder or similar).

On one hand, I could believe you are just spreading the damage around. On the other, it feels hard to believe that some residual ~2 pH stomach acid would remain when massively diluted by a mouthful of ~7 pH tap water.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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If you want to more or less permanently stop gum bleeding pre-brush with a dilute (50 to 200 ppm) solution of hypochlorous acid generated from vinegar acidified salt water (0.8-2%) with salt concentration (saline is 0.8-0.9%) then hit it with a $5 Aliexpress USB electrolyzer for about 30 seconds. The biofilms come right off, your toothbrush ceases to accumulate biological matter, and hypochlorous acid does not begin…

Any thoughts on brushing with a concoction of peroxide and baking soda as recommended in this yt video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cow6wNRJqoo

Yeah, hydrogen peroxide is more toxic than hypochlorous acid.
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