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Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by jetsnoc » Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

morning-coffee wrote: post #100

jetsnoc wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might you consider for just a moment, if you will, people who do have a larger problem. People who are neurodivergent who may be challenged with object permanence. Apps like this help greatly. It's not that we don't care or we're stuck with a device in our face, it's that the person doesn't exist unless brought to the front and center.

That's why I suggested it... I myself am diagnosed ASD and have realized the amount of time spent finding, curating, tinkering with these "life-hacking" apps... and the diminishing returns they all produce. By all means, use a Contacts, Calendar, and ToDo app to get a reminder... Then take any spare time remaining and actually get out and connect with the people you care about, instead of endlessly optimizing, in sol…

Oh, I see. Thanks for your perspective. I can understand trying to use contacts and calendar for this and the need to keep it simple. I had a really hard time keeping those organized and the data entered but as apps like Messages get smarter and recognize when I say Happy Birthday to someone that it needs to put a birthdate on that contact, it’s getting a lot easier for me to stay organized.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

Ritepaw wrote: post #98

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #65

Assuming this works, I’d assume I’d want to have for decades right? So what’s the plan to ensure this service does not degrade over the next few decades?

Our design philosophy is to sync as much as we can back to the OS, so that it can be picked up by other apps. Let me take a note though and look into a manual export solution!

Yeah I think it's worth thinking through how to make the data easy to be portable

I know that sounds counterintuitive, and that data lock in is usually valuable, but I think it's generally a liability and history seems to show that building great services around mostly open components is the best way to build software for longevity and happiness.

If you can improve on or coopt an open contact format, that is third party accessible, and then you build the best interface and services around that, then you might have something important and lasting here!

Thanks

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by matznerd » Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 4:33 AM UTC

wodenokoto wrote: post #82

I used to have an app that could display my iphones contact list in reverse chronological order. That was very helpful for "what was the name of that guy I met yesterday at that conference? The app I used has long since been abandoned, and the niche seems littered with scammy apps.

By chance, was it an app called Protact?

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by smallpipe » Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

Ritepaw wrote: post #23

smallpipe wrote: post #14

I wanted something similar so I made myself a list in the Reminders app. I recommend doing it, it’s made keeping up with friends who moved to another country easier.

I commend you for making this effort! It is such an easy thing to do and so worth it. Is there any specific schema or method behind it?

Mine was as simple as it gets: a list in Reminders, recurring reminders every 2 weeks/1 month/3 month depending on how close we are/how frequently they have interesting things to say.

If I see the reminder I try to call/text that person when I have some down time. I tick the box when done, or if I think I've seen talked to them organically recently enough.

I'd be cool if it could somehow tell from my call/whatsapp log/calendar how long it's actually been, but it being a fuzzy is a feature too.

And as you say, definitely worth it.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by NoImmatureAdHom » Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 3:28 PM UTC

reustle wrote: post #64

Any plans for a web version? For those who are keeping an eye on the space, here are some others: - https://MonicaHQ.com - https://Clay.earth - https://GetDex.com - https://Humans.io - A little side project of mine since 2015. PWA, works offline, will likely open source soon and add E2E encryption.

Humans.io seems like an awesome project!

The two critical things Monica / Chandler are missing are: zero-knowledge E2EE (I want to put very personal things in there and not worry about breaches), and no integration with phone contacts / CardDav (I want to be able to use CRM to manage contacts, ofc!)

Etesync may be useful for hosted zero-knowledge E2EE; it should be pretty plug-and-play.