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Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#1
I've been on HN a long time and the comments have always been my favorite part, but recently it seems like the comments have skewed far more cynical or negative.

Yesterday's post where the indie hacker was making 45k a month is a good example. So many comments deriding his businesses, his revenue, or suggesting he was lying (???).

Have things changed or do I remember the past with rosy glasses?

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#4
no one ever called HN "a bunch of know-it all bro-grammers who hate everything" before recently?

In the past part of that perception has been a difference in social standards, I think. Here we get people who can be enthusiastically adoring of an idea and doing their best to offer their ideas to improve it: and others (including the person they're trying to communicate with) may take it as unalloyed negative criticism.

Part of is may be the twitter September people too. Its always the n00bs, after all. Everything was so much better before they showed up.

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#6

I don’t believe you! I jest, but I find technical spaces have lots of cynicism floating around. I’ve not been a reader that long so not really sure - but a certainly get the sense it is somewhat normalised here.

I understand what can be gained by skepticism, but the cynicism is confusing to me!

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#7
Less secure people seek to promote their greatness.

Starting a comment with 'No.' is a sure-fire sign of this. As is seeking to never be wrong driving a long comment train where OP seeks to assure others they're both never wrong while also modest. This is especially bad when trying to limit self-perceived reputation damage when using their real name as a handle - isn't HN privacy-centric now? Should we not all the throwaway or anonymous cowards? Let the content matter, not the ego.

As HN's popularity has increased, especially with that have never compiled Slackware while walking up a hill backwards, in a blizzard, carrying a tree, so have the numbers of people starting spewing combative comments. Usenet never had flamewars, and frankly if I were to launch my GUI for rsync anywhere, it'd be there.

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#8
If you've worked in the startup space long enough, you become cynical. The failure to success ratio is very, very high. On top of that, many of the "successes" are not. You'll run into fake deals (no money changing hands), fake acquisitions (investors and founders got zero), fake bosses ("friend" of a founder with fancy title that doesn't do anything)... on and on.

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#9
I like the tech punditry on here. Most of it is top notch. The odd bad faith comment appears now and then, but they're typically down-voted and greyed out (yet I still end up reading them because they're sometimes funny).

In terms of sentiment analysis of a 10 year window, I have yet to see someone try and attempt that. It would be a good exercise and would be concrete proof that comments have devolved to a sort of Reddit-esque commenting style.

Re: Ask HN: Why are HN comments so cynical?

#10
Anything actually hacker related generally gets the full support of everyone, and are usually the best threads with tons of interesting comments and supportive sentiment. It's all the nonsense that people are sick of and just want to knock down. Indie hacker stuff tends to fall into that category as the vast majority of it is just glorified marketing email lists and job boards being promoted through astroturfing.
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