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Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by ben0x539 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #88
ben0x539 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm German, that's why I was spooked! I'm not in Germany and nothing on my system should be set to German so I was worried you might be applying some sort of mind-reading analytics tech.

Even the order of entries in the Accept-Language header, as per browser settings? That's usually the source of half the problems I have with websites suddenly defaulting to an unexpected language. (The other half is websites suddenly displaying in Norwegian; it started after I was in Oslo for a few days and, while there, had to re-activate Skype from the website. Even a decade and two jobs later, on completely unrela…

Nope, I suspected something there too but it turns out I only have en-GB there.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by CatWChainsaw »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #89
CatWChainsaw wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sibling comments are rather affronted at this, but I happen to agree that leaning into technology to reclaim what we lost to technology in the first place is not actually solving a problem, it's slapping a bandage on and juicing up with some morphine. Technology can't give a person more than the set amount of time, energy, and attention they have by virtue of being human. We're cramming more and more into our lives,…

But optimization is exactly what you called for - subtracting things, rearranging things. Because the issue is that we have little choice in how much stuff we have to cram in our lives. That's the social problem of technology: it's a ratchet. Consider a clock. Why do you need to know what time is it, with minute accuracy? Because you need to synchronize in time with other people. Why do you need that? Because everyon…

I think we're agreeing just from different angles. We seem to have the same opinion about the veritable rat race of being forced to juggle ever more things, because technology. It seems that where we're not agreeing is 'optimizing'. IMO the end goal of optimization is to do as much as possible, which is additive. I can see on a personal level some optimizing might be subtractive, but for society as a whole I don't think so.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by arwineap »

ddxv wrote: post #77

Would love for connections to things like LinkedIn, FB Messenger, WhatsApp etc. As someone who lives in a couple countries, I do not use my phone's contacts much.

This is fascinating to me

Your contacts are all in disparate systems?

Do you have any desire to consolidate them?

Is it normal for you to understand that Alice is a "Facebook friend" and Bob is an "Instagram friend"?

With regards to linkedin I imagine these are all "professional friends" - are your other friends able to be put into clean buckets like linkedin?

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by Ritepaw »

ben0x539 wrote: post #90
petesergeant wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This feels a bit like complaining a health app wants your medical data though. How else is a personal CRM going to work other than by data about your social graph?

I don't mind putting data in the app. I don't want to tell the people running it anything.

Maybe I wasn't precise enough. The data remains on your phone. Nothing is sent to us.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by Ritepaw »

steve_wilson wrote: post #80

Congrats on the launch! Something I would love to see is an integration with all my messaging apps where I stay in touch with people. Beeper.com offers such functionality (can also be self hosted, which is something I did) and it’s amazing if you can see when you last messaged people, what the content was, etc. Beeper itself is purely built for messaging, so an app like yours would be the perfect companion to give yo…

We'll check it out. Thank you!

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by Ritepaw »

collinmcnulty wrote: post #59

My number one “personal CRM” challenge isn’t getting reminders to call people, it’s remembering things people told me. I’ve taken recently to using the Notes field in Contacts, but something more structured would really be nice.

Thank you for your suggestion! I've taken note of it and we will discuss :)

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by Ritepaw »

uoaei wrote: post #78

Does anyone receiving these feel like it's personal enough to be meaningful? I can't help but think that even with some cutesy text, if it wasn't exactly the tone of the person who sent it or it didn't contain some kind of inside joke, it would just come across as a cookie-cutter afterthought. It seems like the Bitmoji of greeting cards, all splash and no depth. Is the goal to "exit" with a sale to Hallmark or someth…

You are absolutely right in that we need to strike the right balance between convenience and value. We discuss this a lot internally and will certainly need a couple iterations before we find the sweet spot.

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by Ritepaw »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #65

Assuming this works, I’d assume I’d want to have for decades right? So what’s the plan to ensure this service does not degrade over the next few decades?

Our design philosophy is to sync as much as we can back to the OS, so that it can be picked up by other apps.

Let me take a note though and look into a manual export solution!

Re: Show HN: A “CRM” for personal relationships

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Post by morning-coffee »

jetsnoc wrote: post #67
morning-coffee wrote: post #37

If "relationships matter" and you need an app to remind you of that, I'd posit you have a larger problem than any app can solve. Consider putting down the device and connecting with your peeps in the real world every once in a while.

Might you consider for just a moment, if you will, people who do have a larger problem. People who are neurodivergent who may be challenged with object permanence. Apps like this help greatly. It's not that we don't care or we're stuck with a device in our face, it's that the person doesn't exist unless brought to the front and center.

That's why I suggested it... I myself am diagnosed ASD and have realized the amount of time spent finding, curating, tinkering with these "life-hacking" apps... and the diminishing returns they all produce. By all means, use a Contacts, Calendar, and ToDo app to get a reminder... Then take any spare time remaining and actually get out and connect with the people you care about, instead of endlessly optimizing, in solitude, in front of a device, the systems and processes around the meta for personal relationships.

The premise that one of the myriad of other tools that already exist to get a reminder to connect with someone you care about are somehow so insufficient, and that if only I had this new CRM app for personal relationships that I'd finally be able to cultivate those relationships like I've always wanted, is just so preposterous sounding to me that I felt I had to comment.

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