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U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households (2019)

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Post by throwaway290 »

nineplay wrote: post #17

The legality and acceptability of divorce isn't mentioned but I think it should be. Single parents will be rarer in countries where divorce isn't a viable option but that doesn't mean the children are raised in healthier environments.

Exactly: having to bond with a crazy or abusive parent is what's actually unhealthy, not lacking a parent.

Children grow up perfectly fine making bonds with non-parents. (See also the father/mother figure trope.) They may do it even if the parent(s) exist but were not fit for the role.

In many countries extended families can help sort this out. It is only a bigger problem if you have a single parent + no extended family support. I imagine social services (is that what they're called) or teachers compensate for the extended family role in countries like US?

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Post by kibwen »

svggrfgovgf wrote: post #24

Not surprising. A part of the cultural war in the US (in 1992) was that it was fine, even encouraged, for a woman to be a single parent. The controversy started between Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown (a fictional character that decided to become a single mother). The MSM at the time was extremely supportive of Murphy Brown's position. Here's an editorial by the Brookings Institution from 2012 about the controversy. http…

I find the argument here to be so incomplete that it verges on silly. Raising a child is difficult, and nobody goes into it wanting to go it alone. The question is not "is single parenthood bad", it's "is single parenthood worse than the alternative of forcing parents to stay together despite a toxic, loveless, or unfaithful marriage".

Of course, ideally, people just shouldn't be having kids if they're not absolutely sure that they want to be raising children. The best salve we have for the overall problem is access to birth control.

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Post by t-writescode »

Supply5411 wrote: post #23
autoexec wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This study says nothing at all about that. Please take your bigotry elsewhere. While there are clear advantages to children having same-sex role models there is no requirement that the role model be a parent.

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What is your goal here in this conversation?

Would you have the women stay with their abusers and their beaters so that the child can have “two parents”?

People don’t leave relationships because they’re good, safe and healthy.

Love is what helps a kid grow well and the comradery and care two adults can have for each other can be reflected into children no matter the gender of the adults who serve as examples.

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Post by wowdang »

alexanderson wrote: post #10

Freakonomics most recent podcast episode was about this very topic, and the data that indicates how valuable two-parent households can be to the parents and the children. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/when-did-marriage-become-a-...

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Post by jltsiren »

nineplay wrote: post #17

The legality and acceptability of divorce isn't mentioned but I think it should be. Single parents will be rarer in countries where divorce isn't a viable option but that doesn't mean the children are raised in healthier environments.

The interesting comparison is between the US and Europe, where divorce is also widely accepted. Americans have more children than Europeans, and American children are more likely to live in single-parent households than European children. These two are probably connected. Americans are more likely to have children in situations where Europeans choose not to.

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Post by Supply5411 »

wtallis wrote: post #27
Supply5411 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You're not merely suggesting , you're asserting that there's widespread evidence of a serious problem, without pointing to any.

Got me, I totally made up this brand new social idea that men need fathers. It's so new and cutting edge that nobody has ever researched it or looked into it.

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Post by Supply5411 »

t-writescode wrote: post #33
Supply5411 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What is your goal here in this conversation? Would you have the women stay with their abusers and their beaters so that the child can have “two parents”? People don’t leave relationships because they’re good, safe and healthy. Love is what helps a kid grow well and the comradery and care two adults can have for each other can be reflected into children no matter the gender of the adults who serve as examples.

>the comradery and care two adults can have for each other can be reflected into children no matter the gender of the adults who serve as examples.

The love between a man and a woman is unique and no other arrangement replicates it.

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Post by t-writescode »

Supply5411 wrote: post #38
t-writescode wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your goal here in this conversation? Would you have the women stay with their abusers and their beaters so that the child can have “two parents”? People don’t leave relationships because they’re good, safe and healthy. Love is what helps a kid grow well and the comradery and care two adults can have for each other can be reflected into children no matter the gender of the adults who serve as examples.

>the comradery and care two adults can have for each other can be reflected into children no matter the gender of the adults who serve as examples. The love between a man and a woman is unique and no other arrangement replicates it.

How so? Would you describe this uniqueness so that I may understand it?

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Post by dotnet00 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #7

How does India have such a low number with their high population?

On top of the other points, like in many other conservative cultures, much of the population leans towards staying in a bad relationship if already married because divorce is seen as worse than being a dysfunctional family, especially for women.
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