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Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by cbozeman »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #72

I'm just as in pain that we lost so many cpu makers. I don't even remember who used to be making chips. It feels like we are down to so few. Ignore Apple entirely (since you can't make a phone with that chip) and Qualcomm and MediaTek are probably make up significantly >50% of the market. Samsung and who else make buyable chips? More to the point of this submission, isn't it amazing how hard it is to get a phone smal…

IBM, Cyrix, Transmeta, NEC

There are more, but those are the ones off the top of my head. Not all of these companies had their own foundries, by the way. Cyrix just designed the chips, they were fabbed somewhere else.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by nemo8551 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #85
causi wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention picking a Pixel phone has always meant making hardware choices you may or may not find acceptable. It used to mean being stuck with a muddy POLED display and bizarre hardware issues that crop up four months in. Now it means a Tensor chip that consistently underperforms its Snapdragon counterpart and whose poor Mali drivers essentially keep you from any kind of serious game emulation. The smartphone mar…

Interesting to see Google is still up to their old nonsense. I bought every Nexus phone but the Nexus 5 failed me really badly in my first overseas trip. Battery was constantly draining doing nothing, terrible bugs with the GPS module and right before I left I updated my non rooted stock OS to the latest version only to discover the hard way that they introduced a bug that completely broke video recording. I only dis…

It was AirPods for me, I was fully android and chrome os (pixelbook), windows on my work machine.

Then AirPods came out and they worked with my Samsung note, but I got an iPhone at upgrade time. 5 years later and I’ve just got my second iPhone and my house is fully in the Apple ecosystem.

The “how do we?” Or “can you setup this” have effectively stopped from my wife and kids.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by nemo8551 »

joewferrara wrote: post #14

It’s a consequence of the maturity of the smart phone market/product. Apple’s “boring” new IPhone announcement last week (or was it two weeks ago?) is another consequence of the maturity of smart phones. There’s less and less new groundbreaking stuff to do. At the beginning before all the groundbreaking stuff was done and winners and losers decided there’s much more competition.

I’ve just done my first iPhone to iPhone upgrade.

11 pro to 15 pro.

My wife asked what was new/changed. I said “it’s exactly he same and I like that, but it has usb c, better cameras and battery life and the screens a hit different but it’s still my exact phone setup”

Which is boring, but I kind of like it.

Before I moved from android I loved getting a new phone that was different, then I would root it if no could install custom launchers or OS’s. That was part of the fun and definitely not boring, but I actually like this kind of boring and I don’t think we will see Apple do anything crazy until they make some sort of foldable.

You know because they’re brave.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by heywhatupboys »

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #53
heywhatupboys wrote: post #33

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Not everything caters to the American sensibilities. Different cultures regard different things as professional.

If you want to successfully sell to Americans, catering to American sensibilities sounds like a no brainer.

and who says they want to?

this is not a net plus game. Catering to Americans might mean catering less to other cultures.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by heywhatupboys »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #50
granshaw wrote: post #31

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Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Because it works anyway and 99.9% of them don't even know there is a problem here.

> don't even know there is a problem here.

OR, they don't care.... American centrism on HN is so bad

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by [deleted] »

heywhatupboys wrote: post #104
kspacewalk2 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to successfully sell to Americans, catering to American sensibilities sounds like a no brainer.

and who says they want to? this is not a net plus game. Catering to Americans might mean catering less to other cultures.

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Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by CapricornNoble »

not_your_vase wrote: post #38
chankstein38 wrote: post #20

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My favorite one ever is still MOBDICK

Mine is Doogee, first saw it in 2017. They were truly ahead of their time (maybe still are?)

I picked up a Doogee S55 as my travel phone sometime 2015-2017. It's still my secondary phone today. Battery is on its last legs and the rugged case is as well, but squeezing 6 years of utility out of a ~$200 phone? Hell yeah. Not everything sold on AliExpress is total dogshit.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Doogee-S55-Smartphone-Review.3...

I'll almost certainly pick up another ~$200 rugged Chinese-made phone to replace it....that or some hardware that supports postmarketOS.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Post by musicale »

solardev wrote: post #74
vanchor3 wrote: post #66

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Most of those are at least "real names" though, which you can find some sort of significance behind. Either named after a place or person, or with some sort of meaning. Rather than names that seem to be randomly generated 5-7 character vaguely pronounceable names that aren't already in use.

Maybe if you look them up, but I bet the average person has no idea what Lenovo, Asus, Volvo, Nintendo, Samsung, and IKEA mean. Even more modern company names are kinda like that... Anker, DJI, Haier, Dalian Wanda, Kagi, Vercel, Nexon, Plex, Splunk, Zyxel, Sonos, Zynga, Hulu, Etsy, Yandex... Maybe if they just used a better random name generator with a better appreciation for English phonemes, we'd never know the dif…

Interpretations mostly off the top of my head with wikipedia lookups for some of the non-English names:

Lenovo - the new thing; Asus, Volvo - vaguely anatomical in English, but actually from pegasus and "I roll" in Latin; Nintendo - 任天堂 might mean something in Japanese; Samsung - 삼성/三星 "three stars" in Korean; IKEA - IK is from founder Ingvar Kamprad's initials, EA more obscurely from his home farm and village;

Anker - big and heavy "anchor", appropriate for power adapters; Kagi - means "key" in Japanese; Nexon - from Nexus, their (still running!) 1996 MMORPG; Plex - from multiplex or cineplex; Sonos - from sound; Hulu - sounds like "hula" but apparently from Mandarin; Etsy - from "etc.", implying you can find "everything else"; Yandex - Yet Another + (network) Index.

They seem to be fairly sensible names for the most part.

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