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Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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Issue: Needs to designate roomate meeting place, such as college Also mad props for thinking of the exact same thing.

Did the title of this post instantly make you think of that line from the movie? It did for me. Spaceballs was one of the movies that I watched over and over as a kid.

My personal favorite line from the film: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0jufq5o13Pc

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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> The constant embeds everything that an English-speaking localizer needs to explain the relationship in a different language. That’s why something like the [proposal] (just use the Chinese name for this relationship) would not be an improvement. I don't exactly agree. Note that this constant embeds two terms, exactly because this particular kinship term does not distinguish them. In the other word this constant can…

I think this UI issue shows a problem in thinking about what the actual problem is that they're trying to solve. This bug is about contact cards , and so the relationship is necessarily between you and the contact. So, it's not like you need to translate 表妹 into English, or differentiate it from 表姐 in English, as it's something you have chosen to describe the relationship. If you just think of them as "cousin" or wha…

> Lots of people use 哥, 弟弟, 妹妹, 姐姐 (literally older brother, younger brother, younger sister, older sister) to mean their friendship group, although this is probably a result of the impact of the one child policy.

Use of kinship terms to describe non-kin is clearly not related to the one-child policy given that it’s a language feature of Chinese that occurs across multiple political lines. It also appears in other languages, such as Korean.

Chinese also differentiates kin vs non-kin address. 哥哥 is typically used to describe a blood relation. 哥 and 哥哥 have very different connotations if used to refer to a non-relative.

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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After understanding the reason this exists, am I alone thinking that this named constant probably shouldn't exist and rather that such relationships should be described by literal constructions of a small set of basic family relationships? That is, instead of saying grand-mother you would build a value such as "MotherOf(DirectParentOf(Me()))"

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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Interesting! Reminds me in Japanese how you can (almost) tell what a sibling is composed of just by looking at the kanji characters. These are ALL read as "kyoudai": 兄弟:Elder brother, younger brother 姉弟:Elder sister, younger brother 兄妹:Elder brother, younger sister The 4th remaining case is 姉妹, and is read "shimai".

Same with oji (uncle)/oba (aunt): 叔父: uncle (younger than one's parent) 伯父: uncle (older than one's parent) 叔母: aunt (younger than one's parent) 伯母: aunt (older than one's parent)

Oh wow, I didn't know that one! Thanks!

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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Is this concept also used in any of the major Indian languages?

Yes in Hindi you have different nouns and adjectives for uncles, aunts and cousins depending on the relation path: E.g. Mother's sister = Mausi Mother's sister's child = Mauseri/mausera Father's younger brother's child = chacheri/chachera And so on. Although some of these are more obscure and I'm not sure how commonly they are used these days.

I see.

Notably, mapping the entire path isn't congruent with the concept in the topic, which encompasses both "Father's sister's daughter, younger than me" and "Mother's sibling's daughter, younger than me" in one phrase.

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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are there multiple languages that have this exact relationship concept? because if it’s in a single language or family of languages, the idea that it can be translates into something generic seems questionable

It won’t be localized into something generic. It will be localized to a specific (long) string in most cases.

that seems silly
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