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Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus

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Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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By the end of the decade, end of next decade tops, text to speech will be a solved problem, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t been paying attention. It suck for voice actors. If they’re lucky the top percent of them might retain a job due to the novelty or branding of their voice, but most will be unemployed. edit: erroneously said dictation (which also will be solved :p)

Dictation is where you speak some words, and someone else types them out, like voice recognition.

This created jobs from Biblical times, nearly to the present.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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I was under the impression that striking actors concerns with AI were over AI reproducing their likenesses, but this article is claiming that the fears would also consider non-specific (non-imitation, non-likeness, ?) generated voices a threat. The former is at least what I've read as far as union demands go.

Actors demanding a cut of revenue generated with their likeness I can understand, but trying to stop all AI-gen content, even that which does not imitate a real person and was trained on ethically sourced, non-SAG data, smells like business-model protectionism or even luddism.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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Listening to an audiobook narrated by an AI voice can get old after a few hours. There is absolutely still hope for traditional voice narration, especially if different voice actors want to voice different characters in the story.

AI audiobooks also seem they’re ripe for “perfection over time” where parts are indicated where it’s not pronounced right or needs additional inflection, etc, and that can be rerendered.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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By the end of the decade, end of next decade tops, text to speech will be a solved problem, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t been paying attention. It suck for voice actors. If they’re lucky the top percent of them might retain a job due to the novelty or branding of their voice, but most will be unemployed. edit: erroneously said dictation (which also will be solved :p)

Dictation is where you speak some words, and someone else types them out, like voice recognition. This created jobs from Biblical times, nearly to the present.

ha - yes you're right. TTS is more accurate. Though, sadly what you're describing will also be a solved problem.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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This is called progress. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but in a few years the trend is to have all readers replaced by AI once technology will make their voice credible, then all singers will face the same fate. I'm sorry, but in a few decades, possibly years, all movies and music will contain more and more AI generated content with fake actors and artists who never existed whose fame has been carefully planned on soc…

Ah yes. Canned mash up of an average of past human creation. Progress over actually creating.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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This ship has sailed and worrying about AI copying a particular actor or voice of a professional actor is virtually meaningless long term.

AI will enable the creation of voices and people who never were and even the corpus of people used to train the AI wont need to include actors.

If you read books out loud or are an extra you don't and honestly shouldn't expect an income from it and this problem stands to get worse not better.

These is little political will to implement UBI so best get to learning a new profession whilst audio books transition to tools produce dozens of professional virtual voice actors for 19.99 or free if you dont mind user unfriendly open source you have to set up yourself.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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I just listened to the beginning of one of these books. The book text starts out "I." as in, roman numeral for chapter 1. The audio book read this as "eye" (or "I", but not 1). Then the third sentence in the text says "1793-05". The audio was "1793 to 2005". Actually it was 1793 to 1805. I listened to a few more sentences and had an idea of the state of it currently. The tech has advanced in the past few years, still…

> Then the third sentence in the text says "1793-05". The audio was "1793 to 2005". Actually it was 1793 to 1805.

Bit of a tangent here but did you get 1805 from context or is YYYY-YY a common year range notation that I'm not aware of? Because I would never guess 1793-05 meant 1793-1805 either.

Re: Project Gutenberg has implemented one of the worst AI fears of striking actors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is step 1. Bark already has some models which try to match the tone to what's written. We'll get there.

Why do we need to get there? What’s the end goal?

Nearly perfect, or even “usable” audiobooks of anything I have in text form is desirable to me, at least.
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