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iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by user_7832 »

hackeraccount wrote: post #6

It's impressive. My only complaint would be that the article is mainly focusing on pretty good conditions. I'd be nice to see the same thing with crap lighting.

An ideal test would involve tough situations (poor lighting, low shutter speeds, high ISO), and post processing later to be professional. For better or worse, they'd only be one winner in such a test, and by a long shot.

Personal anecdote, when I got my first google pixel I was enamored by all the power of GCam I had heard about, especially at night. Unfortunately 20 minutes into my first photography night out I quickly learnt all about the hardware limitations of my Pixel 5. Still a great camera, but by "smartphone" standards.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by shortcake27 »

throw0101b wrote: post #15
shortcake27 wrote: post #9

I ditched all my cameras 5 years ago in favour of convenience. I’m a bit disappointed that the difference is still so large. I was convinced phones were going to approach crop sensor quality but it’s not even close, the 80D completely smoked it. > There is a notable drawback for the iPhone 15 Pro Max in the 3X to 4.9X range (~72mm to 119mm full frame equivalent), as it’s stuck using the main sensor, rather than switc…

> I was convinced phones were going to approach crop sensor quality but it’s not even close, the 80D completely smoked it. What is the size of a crop sensor (either APS-C, or even m5/4), and what is the size of the typical phone camera? How functionality do you have with aperture with a camera lens versus that of a phone (which often isn't real/physical, but may be simulated aperture)?

What’s the size of a photon? You seem to be suggesting that the limiting factor is the physical size of the sensor, which is totally absurd. Photography optics are not even close to approaching the limits of physics.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by foldr »

stu2b50 wrote: post #22
foldr wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The audience of content creators like this is the ever-dwindling number of people buying expensive dedicated photographic gear. The vast majority of photography now is being done by people who aren't photo gear heads, because almost all of the gear is more than good enough.

I don't think that's a fair characterization of the market. $300 point and shoots are indeed dead, but the prosumer photography market is as alive as ever, especially since the pandemic, during which every white collar worker seems to have decided to get a hobby of some kind. Analog film photography, famously, had a huge resurgence the last 5 or so years, and is quite popular.

>but the prosumer photography market is as alive as ever,

I don't think you can really mean 'ever' here. Compared to the 1990s? The prosumer market might finally be starting to bottom out, but a lot depends on how much further smartphones improve.

Analog photography is popular, but it is not making large amounts of money for camera manufacturers, as most people are using second hand gear.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by foldr »

throw0101b wrote: post #29
foldr wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The audience of content creators like this is the ever-dwindling number of people buying expensive dedicated photographic gear. The vast majority of photography now is being done by people who aren't photo gear heads, because almost all of the gear is more than good enough.

> The vast majority of photography now is being done by people who aren't photo gear heads, because almost all of the gear is more than good enough. And Chelsea said in that video that for around town her phone makes more than adequate shots, and it's an easy way for to simply capture a memory. But given that they often frame pictures of their trips to help remember them, they won't be printing and hanging up any pho…

>they won't be printing and hanging up any photos from their Italian trip from their phone.

Meanwhile, literally hundreds of millions of other people are printing out and framing photos taken on their smartphones.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by amelius »

endisneigh wrote: post #28

these comparisons are always amusing. no one takes their DSLR everywhere, so the "real world" comparison would be iPhone vs nothing. heck, even if you had your full frame DSLR in a bag with you all of the time. Unless you're photographing something "slow" like a sunset, you would lose your shot by the time you get to your bag and pull out your camera.

> the "real world" comparison would be iPhone vs nothing.

Or iPhone versus being-there-in-the-moment-yourself.

It's especially amusing when people watch entire live performances through the screen of their phone.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by amelius »

foldr wrote: post #23
hammock wrote: post #20

Sensor size matters and it’s not included anywhere in the specs (red flag) Along with all the other comments in this thread and based on the media outlet that published this, this is clearly a rigged comparison

I mean, the pixel size and resolution of the iPhone 15 camera are public information, so a little bit of math will get you the dimensions of the sensor if that's of interest for some reason.

You'd also need the distance between the pixels.

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Post by exitb »

endisneigh wrote: post #28

these comparisons are always amusing. no one takes their DSLR everywhere, so the "real world" comparison would be iPhone vs nothing. heck, even if you had your full frame DSLR in a bag with you all of the time. Unless you're photographing something "slow" like a sunset, you would lose your shot by the time you get to your bag and pull out your camera.

It’s not unusual to take a camera on vacation and keep it handy whenever possible.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by bayindirh »

phlsa wrote: post #17

In the “just point at something and press the shutter” scenario, phones have been just as good (and in some cases better) than dedicated cameras for a while. For me, the main reasons for using a dedicated camera are ergonomics and creative control. I rarely hold the device at eye level when taking a photo, since it makes for more interesting compositions. Somehow my fingers are always in the wrong position when I wan…

iPhone has an impressive camera (set) for its size, and puts out nice images, yet it still fails to capture the dynamic range of an old DSLR in many cases.

The difference will be much more noticeable when compared to a latest generation full-frame sensors (Sony A7, Nikon Z, Canon R families), both in dynamic range, and color accuracy.

While I'll not be carrying a full frame mirrorless everywhere, it's evident that both devices will have its place.

To close, I'll be probably carrying a iPhone 15 or 16 in my pocket next. Knowing what I'm going to get is a nice plus.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. DSLR photos: Real world camera comparison

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Post by vlovich123 »

phlsa wrote: post #17

In the “just point at something and press the shutter” scenario, phones have been just as good (and in some cases better) than dedicated cameras for a while. For me, the main reasons for using a dedicated camera are ergonomics and creative control. I rarely hold the device at eye level when taking a photo, since it makes for more interesting compositions. Somehow my fingers are always in the wrong position when I wan…

Aren’t there small wireless accessories to trigger the shutter?
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