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The Frustration Loop

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Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by someplaceguy »

zufallsheld wrote: post #83
Nevermark wrote: post #76

I came up with a simple way to eliminate spam in my email, without any third party filtering. I have my own domain name for email. My email box accepts anything that goes the domain. I.e. a catchall email account. However, I give a different email address to every site and service. I.e. sitea@mydomain.com, site2@mydomain.com This lets my email reliably get auto sorted by who its from. But I also use a consistent form…

I've been doing the same for some years now, except auto deleting anything. What I noticed is that the only spam I get goes to my mail address that's published on my blog and my github address. So it seems that nobody sold my address to spammers, they only scraped Publicly available addresses.

> So it seems that nobody sold my address to spammers, they only scraped Publicly available addresses.

I've been doing it for many years and have already went through quite a few leaked addresses (at least a dozen or two, out of many hundreds). Even a small hotel, not part of any hotel chain, in Portugal in the middle of nowhere has leaked my address.

That said, I believe almost all of those leaks were due to websites or databases having been hacked, not due to them actually selling my email addresses.

When they sell my data (which has also happened before) I tend to get spam from actual businesses, often related ones. When the email gets leaked, I tend to get huge amounts of generic spam/scams (e.g. "your device was hacked!!"). You also tend to find the latter addresses on haveibeenpwned.com.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by rchaud »

dgb23 wrote: post #113
pjc50 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody like talking into a void. Audience feedback is necessary for most people to bother continuing to do it.

Perhaps there are better methods for that, like email. Another one is to require a paid subscription to comment. It’s a filter for low effort spam.

Emailing comments is possible even with a comment system, assuming the site owner discloses it. But it is invisible to others, as most blogs are not going to curate emails into a "Letter to the Editor" section of the website.

Substack is an email newsletter platform and even that has a comment system.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

pxoe wrote: post #115
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #61

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Twitter has been doing things worse than that for years. They seem to even have different levels of shadow banning. The practice is fundamentally malicious because innocent people get caught in it all the time. The two main problems both stem from the fact that they don't admit to doing it. The first is that you're posting interesting things but nobody ever sees it because you're shadow banned, and then what you shou…

idk if some of those things are "shadowbanning" per se but more like limiting reach and promotion. there's the confusion (unaware or intentional) between 'getting actually shadowbanned, as in, your posts actually do not appear to anyone else but you' and 'not getting free promo, free algo boost, free views from the platform, if it either doesn't choose to promote you, or chooses to not promote you' (these two are sub…

That's what I mean by different levels of shadowbanning.

"Well, the algorithm just isn't promoting you, that's not the same thing."

The algorithm is sorting a feed containing millions of posts. There is no mathematical difference between a penalty and the removal of a bonus that similarly situated accounts get. They both cause your posts to be not seen by people who would otherwise have seen it. You can easily be blocked from 95% of your audience and still be able to find people in the last 5% who occasionally see your posts.

The thing that makes it a shadowban is that it's a hidden penalty applied to your account, regardless of what you subsequently post or how the people who do see it respond to it.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

netmare wrote: post #105
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #66

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Presumably one of the users who has personal experience with a false positive in one of these systems.

They were probably referring to the random delays, form field wiping, focus-jumping and silly back-end errors which are prevalent in "healthcare UI/UX".

Oh of course, I thought that much was implied and the confusion was why someone would have strong objections to this. The answer being that it's extremely hostile to innocent people in the event of a false positive.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by pea »

pantalaimon wrote: post #70
thomastjeffery wrote: post #52

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Everyone who doesn't just replace www with old

There used to be i.reddit.com for the old mobile UI but they shut it down

I built a custom stylesheet which makes old reddit mobile friendly (basically to look like an app). I'll throw it up if anyone is interested, I was going to build a webview app which just uses old reddit to provide an app-like experience.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by thimkerbell »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #61
tareqak wrote: post #49

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How would this work for something like Twitter/X when accounting for individuals serving the US government? Someone could be flagged as a troll on the backend for unrelated reasons, but now their experience in communicating with someone in government is delayed. I understand that a delay is not the same thing as a block, but I wonder if the damage to the user’s experience is sufficiently similar for a federal judge.

Twitter has been doing things worse than that for years. They seem to even have different levels of shadow banning. The practice is fundamentally malicious because innocent people get caught in it all the time. The two main problems both stem from the fact that they don't admit to doing it. The first is that you're posting interesting things but nobody ever sees it because you're shadow banned, and then what you shou…

The Twitter shadowbanning that I saw was that if I was one of 10 people who replied to a tweet, someone using another account would not see my reply among them.

Re: The Frustration Loop

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Post by mc10 »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #116
mc10 wrote: post #43

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Maybe I'm thinking specifically of 1Password which can store your previously-filled out form fields as well as autofill fields like address or credit card number.

If it can detect HTML input fields and what to put in them, I'm sure it can also determine if a field is hidden (either by hidden property or styling) and avoid it?

Yeah I guess it depends on how sophisticated the "hiddenness" of the field is. Instead of straight up using the hidden property (which is easier for a bot to detect), you could try other things, like moving the input field offscreen and using overflow: hidden, or styling it such that it's the same color as the background and is unfillable. Now though you'll need to worrying about tabbing through fields (change tabindex to -1) and screen readers that might pick up the fields.
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