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> So his "father with money" is a Cuban immigrant? That kind of changes the narrative. An Exxon engineer is hardly a homeless begger.

It's also hardly a billionaire. Engineers are solidly middle-class.

Especially in Cuba

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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A private plane is not a private jet, and a sailboat is not the Fulk al Salama. I'd bet the private plane was a little cesna and the "ocean going yacht" was probably a medium sized sailboat or catamaran. Rich? I suppose, but not wealthy. Upper middle class maybe.

> A private plane is not a private jet (...) https://www.the-sun.com/news/8014711/elon-musk-dad-errol-cha... Elon Musk stans are something else. The loops they jump through to convince themselves that the teenager who was walking around with emerald from his family's mine in his pockets was not a rich privileged kid are out of this world. https://www.news24.com/news24/bi-archive/elon-musk-sells-the... It's perfectly…

I don't idolize anyone. I just find this recent vitriol from people who 5 years ago fawned over this man as a visionary exhausting and like to inject some sanity into the discussion. He was a darling to the progressives, until he expressed opinions. Now he's a lepper who never had a good idea in his life and paid other people with his inherited old money wealth to build several of the most successful companies in the world for him. Spare me.

The first article you linked to says it was a twin engine Cessna that he got for fifty grand. The second one says him and his brother sold 2 emeralds for 2000 bucks. Well off, sure. Comes from money? I don't think so.

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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Everyone knows Elon Musk’s father owned a emerald mine in Zambia. The only person who denies it is Elon.

Musk has a million dogecoin bounty for anyone who can prove that claim. There are interviews with his dad where his dad says basically he bought some emeralds from an Italian guy who was chiseling them from a rock in the ground. That's a far cry away from an emerald mine fortune, when I think "emerald mine" I think John of God level fortunes, and they used what money they made to move out of South Africa. From my und…

Middle class does not exist in South Africa. Look up their Gini index. If you think wealth inequality in the U.S. is bad, it’s 10 times worse in South Africa

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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The narratives nowadays always try to paint Gates as a pillar of the community and ace businessman. But in reality his start was down to pure luck and then building a monopoly through illegal business practices and totally unethical behavior. The guy always will be a cretin.

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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The Zuck has proven that getting lucky with one webpage is more about being in the right place at the right time, as opposed to any skill or business acumen he has. The strategy to buy up all the potential competitors in your space allows him to take the scattergun approach to extremes. But Zuck has proven that anything his Facebook company tries to grow organically is a disaster.

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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The narratives nowadays always try to paint Gates as a pillar of the community and ace businessman. But in reality his start was down to pure luck and then building a monopoly through illegal business practices and totally unethical behavior. The guy always will be a cretin.

Nothing original from MS.

All tech cloned (C#, Excel) or aquihire (Simonyi/Brodie for Word from XeroxParc) or corp acquisition (too many to mention), or some combination (Myrvold DSR, acquire a smart guy's company with a clone of IBM multitasking).

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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> A private plane is not a private jet (...) https://www.the-sun.com/news/8014711/elon-musk-dad-errol-cha... Elon Musk stans are something else. The loops they jump through to convince themselves that the teenager who was walking around with emerald from his family's mine in his pockets was not a rich privileged kid are out of this world. https://www.news24.com/news24/bi-archive/elon-musk-sells-the... It's perfectly…

> convince themselves that the teenager who was walking around with emerald from his family's mine in his pockets was not a rich privileged kid Most emeralds (and other precious stones, too, but especially emeralds) that come out of the ground are essentially worthless. https://www.amazon.com/Gemhub-Quality-Emerald-Natural-Wrappe... There you go. Now you, too, can "walk around with emeralds in your pocket". 12 bucks.

> Most emeralds (and other precious stones, too, but especially emeralds) that come out of the ground are essentially worthless.

As the legend goes, a 16 year old Elon walked into Tiffany's with two emeralds in his pocket which he sold for around $2k only to learn that they were worth 30 times that value.

You can Google for the references if you'd like.

Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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> A private plane is not a private jet (...) https://www.the-sun.com/news/8014711/elon-musk-dad-errol-cha... Elon Musk stans are something else. The loops they jump through to convince themselves that the teenager who was walking around with emerald from his family's mine in his pockets was not a rich privileged kid are out of this world. https://www.news24.com/news24/bi-archive/elon-musk-sells-the... It's perfectly…

I don't idolize anyone. I just find this recent vitriol from people who 5 years ago fawned over this man as a visionary exhausting and like to inject some sanity into the discussion. He was a darling to the progressives, until he expressed opinions. Now he's a lepper who never had a good idea in his life and paid other people with his inherited old money wealth to build several of the most successful companies in the…

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Re: Zuckerberg,Bezos,Gates.Behind Every Self-Made Millionaire Is a Father with Money

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> Mike Bezos, Jeff’s adoptive father and a Cuban immigrant who worked as an engineer at Exxon, one of the world’s top oil companies So his "father with money" is a Cuban immigrant? That kind of changes the narrative.

> So his "father with money" is a Cuban immigrant? That kind of changes the narrative. An Exxon engineer is hardly a homeless begger.

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