Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
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Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#2I have a few qualms with this app. I've easily and securely sent things from one computer to another using a simple FTP server, with all of the features that croc has listed. As for CLI support, I've written a small helper tool that allows me to transfer via CLI - giving me more security since I don't pull in any dependencies in my own code.
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#3I'm surprised it's not listed on the README directly but in case you looked for it like me :) here is what their site says about the alternative you're probably thinking of:
"toss cleverly encodes port information in the code phrase, making it simple but it requires using connected computers (no firewalls) and the long random-ish code phrase is hard to “tell” someone. magic-wormhole has most everything (currently its missing capabilities for multiple file transfers and file resuming), but it requires installing lots of the python ecosystem which is tricky for non-developers (and windows users)."
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#4I have a few qualms with this app. I've easily and securely sent things from one computer to another using a simple FTP server, with all of the features that croc has listed. As for CLI support, I've written a small helper tool that allows me to transfer via CLI - giving me more security since I don't pull in any dependencies in my own code.
Isn't FTP still plaintext?
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#5I have a few qualms with this app. I've easily and securely sent things from one computer to another using a simple FTP server, with all of the features that croc has listed. As for CLI support, I've written a small helper tool that allows me to transfer via CLI - giving me more security since I don't pull in any dependencies in my own code.
Isn't FTP still plaintext?
I read "FTP" as "SFTP".
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#6I have a few qualms with this app. I've easily and securely sent things from one computer to another using a simple FTP server, with all of the features that croc has listed. As for CLI support, I've written a small helper tool that allows me to transfer via CLI - giving me more security since I don't pull in any dependencies in my own code.
FTP requires one-time config though, setting up credentials. Of course, it also needs a port to be opened. Croc and other apps like this[1] target different use cases.
[1]: I am building a UX-focused app over at payload.app, but there are many others, both CLI and GUI/web apps.
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#7I have a few qualms with this app. I've easily and securely sent things from one computer to another using a simple FTP server, with all of the features that croc has listed. As for CLI support, I've written a small helper tool that allows me to transfer via CLI - giving me more security since I don't pull in any dependencies in my own code.
Your qualm with the app is that you like FTP?
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#8A more popular and, I think, carefully analyzed alternative, from which croc was inspired, is Magic Wormhole; a good Golang implementation that compiles down to a single binary is wormhole-william:
https://github.com/psanford/wormhole-william/releases
I believe croc has some features wormhole doesn't (and some anti-features, like being able to pick curves and hashes). But also just that it's worth knowing that Magic Wormhole is kind of the "default" tool that does this.
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#9I am having a hard time understanding. Does this allow you to send / receive anywhere? Across the internet I mean. what external server does it use for 'stapling' the connection or is it also expected that you self host a relay server + set up the necessary ports etc. Do both ends require a relay server?
Re: Croc: Easily and securely send things from one computer to another
#10I am having a hard time understanding. Does this allow you to send / receive anywhere? Across the internet I mean. what external server does it use for 'stapling' the connection or is it also expected that you self host a relay server + set up the necessary ports etc. Do both ends require a relay server?
>I am having a hard time understanding. Does this allow you to send / receive anywhere? Across the internet I mean. what external server does it use for 'stapling' the connection or is it also expected that you self host a relay server + set up the necessary ports etc. Do both ends require a relay server?
Sorry, I have spoke too soon. I see now it uses a public relay by default, and you can self host as needed. Sorry for the unnecessary comment!