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Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Not everything caters to the American sensibilities. Different cultures regard different things as professional.

Yeah, good point. Some cultures don't have... uh... names? Hmm.

Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names *

In particular, check out numbers 5, 20, 29, 32-36, and very specifically, number 40, should interest you. (See 24-27 if you take umbrage at the applicability of the previous set of rules.)

* https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-...

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

My favorite one ever is still MOBDICK

The two past champions are "Fartpeach" products and "Dickass" brand car brakes. Both are gone -- the Fartpeach brand is retired entirely and Dickass changed their name ... to Dickase. Some remnants of the former remain, e.g. https://www.amazon.in/FartPeach-Professional-Mountain-Suspen...

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Could not agree more. The candy bar format is probably as good as it can reasonably be expected to get given our current technology. One day, we may have the phones from The Expanse , but for right now, an iPhone 15 or a Galaxy S23 or a Pixel 7 are as good as they need to be.

I guess current technology does not allow the candy bar format of 2010? I can't think of any use case I have for my 168g >6" monstrosity that I did not also do on the <120g 3.7" Defy.

I have an iPhone 13 Mini. For reasons.

I talk and text on it. Maybe a grocery list or looking up a price in a store. If I want to do more I have bigger devices.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Is it really that different from Nokia, Nintendo, Siemens, Lenovo, Asus, Samsung, Ikea, Ferrari, Volvo, etc.? None of those sound reputable by themselves, they had to build up a reputation.

Hell, I'd probably buy a Zolimo Barbertron just FOR the name!

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Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Is it really that different from Nokia, Nintendo, Siemens, Lenovo, Asus, Samsung, Ikea, Ferrari, Volvo, etc.? None of those sound reputable by themselves, they had to build up a reputation. Hell, I'd probably buy a Zolimo Barbertron just FOR the name!

Most of those are at least "real names" though, which you can find some sort of significance behind. Either named after a place or person, or with some sort of meaning. Rather than names that seem to be randomly generated 5-7 character vaguely pronounceable names that aren't already in use.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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My favorite one ever is still MOBDICK

The two past champions are "Fartpeach" products and "Dickass" brand car brakes. Both are gone -- the Fartpeach brand is retired entirely and Dickass changed their name ... to Dickase. Some remnants of the former remain, e.g. https://www.amazon.in/FartPeach-Professional-Mountain-Suspen...

It seems like it was just the other day that I was telling a friend:

You've got a great set of Kumho tires, do really want to risk wearing them out with those Dickass brakes?

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Or just not put them in all caps all the time. I guess there is so little pushback from Amazon on this they don't even need to bother making names sound real.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Not everything caters to the American sensibilities. Different cultures regard different things as professional.

It's normal for companies to use different names to operate in different markets. There's some bidirectional setting of value through exclusivity that happens in some cases as well, like with Nismo. It's not exclusively an American concept.

Matsushita trading under the name Panasonic is probably the biggest example I can think of that most people would recognize.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

> Amazon sellers use strange brand names to make it easier to get a trademark. Amazon's Brand Registry requires sellers to have a registered trademark to list their products. The fastest way to get a trademark is to use a name that's unrelated to actual words

I believe there was a youtube minidoc from the wendover productiont type channel on this.

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