I don’t see an option to “try before I buy” (without setting up an account) but maybe it’s there? That’d be useful to win over users. Account set up is friction
Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#892Hi, if someone from Kagi is reading this, can we please get a lower tier than $5/month- even specially for India? We are kinda priced out when keeping the PPP in mind. Say $1-$2 for 100-200 queries?
One of the reasons this is not possible are payment processing fees. Here is Stripe (used by Kagi): 2.9% + 30¢ per successful card charge + 0.5% for manually entered cards + 1.5% for international cards + 1% if currency conversion is required So if you pay $1, Kagi gets something like $0.65, meaning it just lost 35% on the payment processing fee. There is no way this can be profitable to serve the service.
freeCodeCamp uses UPI for donations, and it is free (so far), and you can pay YouTubers through Super Thanks via UPI. Homegrown solutions like PayU and Razorpay are solid, too.
I have previously donated to fCC and sent Super Thanks via UPI. It's seamless experience.
Now the question is whether it will be worth it to Kagi to maintain all these- I think- yes! Once these are set-up, these are low maintenance and you don't need to babysit it. Setting these up, catching up with local tax laws sound like a big barrier, but it really isn't.
I know what I am asking is a bit much. :/
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#893Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why I proposed reduced searches per month. To put things into perspective: - YouTube premium is $1.30/month - Amazon Prime is $1.50/month ($0.75 if you are - Spotify premium is $1.44/month - Netflix (1080p, no-ads, 2 devices) is $6/month $5 is decent home-cooked lunch for eight days in India. Maybe Kagi's target customer base isn't India, and that's okay. But to do business in India, a company has to do, what…
> But to do business in India, a company has to do, what I call- "India pricing". Perhaps the nature of the cost structure allows other services to do so, but one search costs the same whether done from a beach in Goa or in San Francisco.
> "That's why I proposed reduced searches per month."
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#894This new pricing scheme made me switch.
I still think though that in many countries it's still high.
At least from my friend group, Either way, I did enjoy kagi quite a bit on the first beta, so I knew exactly what I was in for. But if I would have subscribed as a test with the 100 initial queries I don't think I would have got attached to it. It took me a while to trust the result and compare it with other search engines to get a feeling for the service.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#895I don’t see an option to “try before I buy” (without setting up an account) but maybe it’s there? That’d be useful to win over users. Account set up is friction
There is one on the main page: https://kagi.com/
"Example search results:" click one of them and it takes you to
https://kagi.com/search?q=python+exceptions
Although tbh I'm not liking these results. One of the top results for Python Exceptions is "Python exceptions considered an anti-pattern" which is an opinoin boost rather than documentation.
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#896Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adblockers are not a defense against this, as those results are genuine search results. I run uBlock origin (of course), am extremely aware that geeksforgeeks exist and is utter shit, and yet I get fooled now and again, which makes me very angry at that website, Google, myself, and the world in general...
But to make money those sites have to show ads
If I ran a seal-clubbing business I'd have to club seals to make money.
The whole argument is that those sites don't exist to provide a good service yet sadly need to show ads to keep the lights on.
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#897Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?
In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…
> yet another stackoverflow copy
I get those in Google as well. But tbh, I don't care. If I'm looking for "current time in JavaScript", I don't care if the answer comes from stackoverflow or any of it's clones. It's not like I want to interact with that site somehow. I just want answers. If I want interaction, I obviously go to stackoverflow directly.
It might matter that I'm using Ad-blockers, so maybe if I didn't, those sites would feed me obnoxious popups and malware, but as it stands, I don't see any difference...
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#898Has anyone know about https://0.kagi.com?
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#899Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they are biased. Just look at how NYTimes is both blocked and upvoted on Kagi. Some people like a source and others don’t, it’s that simple really.
For me, I ignore NYT because I'm not a subscriber and it's annoying to always hit the paywall.
It's worth checking your library for a digital pass to the NY times and other papers.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#900Happy customer here. Kagi is by far the best search engine there is. When I first started using Kagi a year ago or so, I compared results with Google every now and then. Now? Never. 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. The results hit home virtually every time. There are variety of features to customize your searches but truthfully, I never found the need for…
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