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Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Not everything caters to the American sensibilities. Different cultures regard different things as professional.

If you're selling on US Amazon it's probably in your best interest to cater to American sensibilities though.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Could not agree more. The candy bar format is probably as good as it can reasonably be expected to get given our current technology. One day, we may have the phones from The Expanse , but for right now, an iPhone 15 or a Galaxy S23 or a Pixel 7 are as good as they need to be.

That most recent innovation in the smart phone market that was not just incremental improvements was foldable phones. It hasn't yet really taken off so it isn't clear it will become widespread. Other than that, most everything has been very incremental (faster, longer, light, high resolution, brighter, polish) since pretty much the mid 2000s.

Is the folding phone not just an incremental improvement on the flip phone? Touch screen instead of screen + physical keyboard.

Some are even going so far as to call themselves flip phones.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Not everything caters to the American sensibilities. Different cultures regard different things as professional.

It's normal for companies to use different names to operate in different markets. There's some bidirectional setting of value through exclusivity that happens in some cases as well, like with Nismo. It's not exclusively an American concept.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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> stuck with pinephone or fairphone? What's wrong with these options?

They're way, way too cheap and low-spec to even consider as a daily driver. I'd love to pay like $500 for a pinephone with hardware from 3-4 years ago.

The PinePhone, yes, but the FairPhone is keeping up. My FairPhone 4 is a great daily driver. Are you confusing the FairPhone with something else?

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

My favorite one ever is still MOBDICK

BEEGOD is an interesting one

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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> stuck with pinephone or fairphone? What's wrong with these options?

Compared to a pixel, they're budget phone specs missing some fundamental quality of life stuff that other phones have offered, usually for years. The fairphone 5 seems a bit closer to flagship specs, but it still clearly misses the mark and also seems priced at flagship levels. Pinephone is just a junk budget phone, although at least it's priced much lower.

> The fairphone 5 [...] still clearly misses the mark

How so? Comparing [1] and [2] shows the geekbench scores between the fairphone 5 and the pixel 7 are pretty similar.

> missing some fundamental quality of life stuff that other phones have offered, usually for years

I'd argue that statement is backwards: the non-mainstream phones have been offering quality of life stuff that the mainstream phones have abandoned years ago, namely user-expandable storage via microsd cards and user-replaceable battery.

[1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1891321

[2] https://browser.geekbench.com/android_devices/google-pixel-7

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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My favorite one ever is still MOBDICK

Mine is Doogee, first saw it in 2017. They were truly ahead of their time (maybe still are?)

They still exist. Here, a phone with a 22000 mAh battery: https://m.gsmarena.com/doogee_s100_pro-12367.php

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

My first thought too. I can't stand Amazon nowadays, even if you know what you want exactly you still need to deal with load of counterfeit and bogus junk.

Re: Nearly 500 brands exited smartphone market during 2017-2023

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Are these like real brands, or fake cookie cutter brands on Amazon? Amazon: "We're talking top brands here, like FLORGOO, REMPLOW, BARBENTRON, ZOLIMIO" Customer: "Those really dont sound like real companies, Amazon" Amazon: "But they kindof do though, you can see how those might be company names" Customer: "I guess?" (from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpxAvjD_30 )

Seriously why don’t these Chinese companies hire someone for 30mins to come up with a more reputable sounding name?

Because it works anyway and 99.9% of them don't even know there is a problem here.
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