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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Yes. In four ways for me: - it actually respects my search. If I search for " " I get no result. It doesn't silently twist my search until it gets something it can show me a million utterly irrelevant results for. This is a huge time saver for me. - there are no ads. I usually didn't notice ads in the search results anyway as they were always irrelevant, but recently there has been so many of them that it took away s…

Does it warn you about typos in your "prhase that exists with a phrase " or just blanks out?

Here's an example search for "casues of the civil war" so you can see the behavior for yourself.

https://kagi.com/search?q=%22casues+of+the+civil+war%22&r=us...

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Wouldn't today's change make you reconsider, because you now no longer have to worry about how much you search for $10/month, it's just unlimited?

It me! I literally looked at Kagi like a week or two ago from a link here. I really liked it, and I've really been hating Google search more and more each day. But I concluded that 1000 searches felt too limiting, and $25 felt too expensive, so I passed hoping a price change would come at some point in the future. And voila! Just signed up for $10 unlimited. Probably won't even use 1000/month, but psychologically it…

Same here. Looked at Kagi a while back, thought about paying for it, but 1000 searches per month was way too little, especially considering what actually eats into your quota: load more results? another search. Looking for an image, so you search and then switch to Images? two searches. etc.

But as soon as "unlimited" became something I could reasonably buy, I was in :D

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Please charge me per query, not a monthly subscription. Ideally 1c per x queries, where x>=5 or around that ballpark, otherwise it's a no from me. For comparison, I pay $5 a month for my phone carrier with unlimited everything.

Their API has this option.

But I don't want to use the api, I want to use their website.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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What's up with the extreme estimats? And if you get 100s results instead of 0? And what if it's not 90%, but 50%? It's definitely wrong for me, I most often use it to exclude irrelevant results, and I'd imagine it's also wrong in general case for such a targeted search engine The "effort" is using the same typo detection algorithm you use for non-quoted search to display the same warning Also the benefit of a warning…

> The "effort" is using the same typo detection algorithm you use for non-quoted search to display the same warning If you were a paying customer you could submit this idea in the forums and someone will actually look into it. I have sent in a few ideas and I think most have been accepted and fixed/implemented within a few weeks.

Gladly this company is a bit broader minded and accepts valuable ideas from a broader group of people

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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It’s still a hard sell. Netflix was running at 8.99 back in the day, I pay $5 for Spotify and Hulu combo as a student. These companies pay royalties, have to secure licenses, have the equipment to feed multimedia to me, apps, Netflix even makes shows now, etc. If they want to get to the average user they’ll need to figure out either a student discount, a combo with another service, light ads like Hulu or optimize the…

I agree. I like kagi, I like it better than Google. But it's not _that_ much better. Certainly not $10 a month better. For comparison, I pay $3/month for mightytext. Which is a tool for Android that lets me send/view/search text messages on my phone from any browser. I'd pay $10/month for it, but kagi doesn't give me nearly that much value

Not feeding my innermost thoughts to an ad network is absolutely worth $10/mo to me.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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For mass market I feel 'free' will always win. With that in mind I wonder if Kagi would be worth having ads for a free version but be super clear what the ads are based on. E.g purely based on 1) search KW and 2) IP location of the search. Nothing more and nothing additional stored. I wonder if privacy minded people would be happy with that as it's very limited data in today's ad world, a massive improvement on anyth…

It goes against their core principle though, of ensuring that their users are their customers, not the product. If advertisers become their customers, then the incentives might start to break just a little at a time. As long as you’re the (only) one paying them, you’re the customer. It’s a big part of why I trust them so much.

Exactly this.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Another Kagi blog post (the small web one) convinced me to sign up and the limited number of searches for $10 was my main hesitation. I signed up anyways and haven't regretted it at all. It's a bummer Safari doesn't support custom search engines very well, but the Kagi extension works well enough. This change will make a lot of other people like myself a lot more comfortable with signing up I bet.

You can use Kagi’s Orion browser on iOS which (of course) supports Kagi natively.

Cool! Didn't know about this. Thanks.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Hi, if someone from Kagi is reading this, can we please get a lower tier than $5/month- even specially for India? We are kinda priced out when keeping the PPP in mind. Say $1-$2 for 100-200 queries?

One of the reasons this is not possible are payment processing fees.

Here is Stripe (used by Kagi):

2.9% + 30¢ per successful card charge + 0.5% for manually entered cards + 1.5% for international cards + 1% if currency conversion is required

So if you pay $1, Kagi gets something like $0.65, meaning it just lost 35% on the payment processing fee. There is no way this can be profitable to serve the service.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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They can't really do that. Their prices are based on what it costs them to use all of the required APIs (Google, Bing, etc.) If they make a cheaper plan, they will quickly lose money on it.

That's why I proposed reduced searches per month. To put things into perspective: - YouTube premium is $1.30/month - Amazon Prime is $1.50/month ($0.75 if you are - Spotify premium is $1.44/month - Netflix (1080p, no-ads, 2 devices) is $6/month $5 is decent home-cooked lunch for eight days in India. Maybe Kagi's target customer base isn't India, and that's okay. But to do business in India, a company has to do, what…

> But to do business in India, a company has to do, what I call- "India pricing".

Perhaps the nature of the cost structure allows other services to do so, but one search costs the same whether done from a beach in Goa or in San Francisco.

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