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Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by drackomalkavian »

manugarg wrote: post #41

I won't trust Harness with anything open source. It's the same company that killed the open source Drone CI after acquiring it. They changed the license such that you could contribute to it but could not use it if your revenue was more than 1 million USD. They didn't fix bugs that were well known to them because they were working on the enterprise version of it.

I may be wrong but I think that DroneCI did not change its license. Before you could use it for free if your revenue was less than 1 million USD which is what is now.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by esperent »

koolba wrote: post #11

> That’s changing today with the launch of the Gitness open-source Git repository and the Harness Code Repository, the hosted and managed version of Gitness. Wouldn’t this violate the git trademark policy? https://git-scm.com/about/trademark From that link: >> In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a th…

You can put whatever you like in your policy documents. Doesn't mean other people have to care, or that it's legally enforceable.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by remram »

lolinder wrote: post #17
prepend wrote: post #5

> There hasn’t been a new Git repo launch in almost a decade,” Bansal told me. “Now you have GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket from Atlassian, but that’s really it Seems odd that he wouldn’t know about Sourcehut (2018) and Gitea (2016).

And Codeberg (2019), which was based on Gitea until they forked it into Forgejo (2022).

Codeberg is a service not a separate software. Just like you wouldn't count salsa.debian.org or framagit.org as separate from GitLab, they are the same with maybe some local customization.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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manugarg wrote: post #41

I won't trust Harness with anything open source. It's the same company that killed the open source Drone CI after acquiring it. They changed the license such that you could contribute to it but could not use it if your revenue was more than 1 million USD. They didn't fix bugs that were well known to them because they were working on the enterprise version of it.

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Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by remram »

manugarg wrote: post #41

I won't trust Harness with anything open source. It's the same company that killed the open source Drone CI after acquiring it. They changed the license such that you could contribute to it but could not use it if your revenue was more than 1 million USD. They didn't fix bugs that were well known to them because they were working on the enterprise version of it.

I went to check on this, and it seems that https://github.com/harness/drone redirects to harness/gitness. I'm now very confused.

The "Community Edition" links on https://docs.drone.io/ are all broken because of this.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by lolinder »

remram wrote: post #54
lolinder wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Codeberg (2019), which was based on Gitea until they forked it into Forgejo (2022).

Codeberg is a service not a separate software. Just like you wouldn't count salsa.debian.org or framagit.org as separate from GitLab, they are the same with maybe some local customization.

At this point Codeberg is clearly distinct from Gitea and is more thoroughly open-source in its nature than anything Harness is going to bring out, but yes, you could combine it with Forgejo if that feels more fair.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by lolinder »

remram wrote: post #56
manugarg wrote: post #41

I won't trust Harness with anything open source. It's the same company that killed the open source Drone CI after acquiring it. They changed the license such that you could contribute to it but could not use it if your revenue was more than 1 million USD. They didn't fix bugs that were well known to them because they were working on the enterprise version of it.

I went to check on this, and it seems that https://github.com/harness/drone redirects to harness/gitness. I'm now very confused. The "Community Edition" links on https://docs.drone.io/ are all broken because of this.

Gitness is a continuation of Drone: they incorporated it in one big PR [0].

Cynically, when coupled with the CTA to star on GitHub, it feels like they did it this way to preserve the star and fork counts.

[0] https://github.com/harness/gitness/pull/3364/

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

#59

Post by lolinder »

esperent wrote: post #52
koolba wrote: post #11

> That’s changing today with the launch of the Gitness open-source Git repository and the Harness Code Repository, the hosted and managed version of Gitness. Wouldn’t this violate the git trademark policy? https://git-scm.com/about/trademark From that link: >> In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a th…

You can put whatever you like in your policy documents. Doesn't mean other people have to care, or that it's legally enforceable.

In general, in open source, we try to respect the wishes of the developers who make our project possible regardless of whether said developers could or would pursue litigation. If a project fails to do so that's a bad sign for the future.

Re: Harness launches Gitness, an open-source GitHub competitor

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Post by lolinder »

drackomalkavian wrote: post #51
manugarg wrote: post #41

I won't trust Harness with anything open source. It's the same company that killed the open source Drone CI after acquiring it. They changed the license such that you could contribute to it but could not use it if your revenue was more than 1 million USD. They didn't fix bugs that were well known to them because they were working on the enterprise version of it.

I may be wrong but I think that DroneCI did not change its license. Before you could use it for free if your revenue was less than 1 million USD which is what is now.

They did change it, but they changed it two years before the acquisition [0].

[0] https://github.com/harness/gitness/commit/ce3855812bb00dbf19...

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