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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by plextoria »

no_wizard wrote: post #438
freediver wrote: post #303

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Kagi founder here. You have my assurance this will not happen. Life is too short and I am not spending 10 years of my life building yet another ad-based search engine.

How do you feel about the name? “Kagi it” feels clunky to me. “Google it” while I’ve heard many instances of people using the phrase even when Google isn’t involved has a ring to it that’s easy to say and tools out well. Have you given thought to whet the Kagi equivalent would be?

What happened to simply using the verb “search”? Or phrases like “look it up”? It shouldn’t really matter (typical conversation) which search engine a person is using.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

viraptor wrote: post #74
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

Wait? I can kill yummly results when looking for a recipe? Ok, I'm in.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by galleywest200 »

birracerveza wrote: post #824

Please charge me per query, not a monthly subscription. Ideally 1c per x queries, where x>=5 or around that ballpark, otherwise it's a no from me. For comparison, I pay $5 a month for my phone carrier with unlimited everything.

Their API has this option.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by [deleted] »

Exuma wrote: post #835
malfist wrote: post #822

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I agree. I like kagi, I like it better than Google. But it's not _that_ much better. Certainly not $10 a month better. For comparison, I pay $3/month for mightytext. Which is a tool for Android that lets me send/view/search text messages on my phone from any browser. I'd pay $10/month for it, but kagi doesn't give me nearly that much value

I'm very glad that my value scale doesnt concern itself with the difference between $3 and $10, I can't imagine going through day to day like that with that level of granularity. That is literally less than the price of a single pizza. A single potato at the store is probably $3 EDIT: I just signed up for Kagi. Youre out of your mind if this isnt worth $10, holy crap this is awesome. The amount of configurations and…

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by d0gsg0w00f »

janandonly wrote: post #798
ask_b123 wrote: post #483

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Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? I don't use Pinterest, and never really encounter it on a daily basis, but some of my friends really like the site. Tbf, they might use stackoverflow more, but seeing Hacker News on the top 5 doesn't seem to reflect the average web user's usage...

Of course they are biased. Just look at how NYTimes is both blocked and upvoted on Kagi. Some people like a source and others don’t, it’s that simple really.

For me, I ignore NYT because I'm not a subscriber and it's annoying to always hit the paywall.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by mekster »

kelnos wrote: post #318
viraptor wrote: post #74

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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

> yet another stackoverflow copy I never got why these even ever appear in Google search results (or any search results, really). It feels like it would be super trivial to identify sites that are scraped copies of other sites. Granted, without foreknowledge, the engine doesn't know which is the original. But at the very least this can be determined by a human once, and then the problem goes away forever for that par…

How can the search engine not able to tell who the original is? Originals always exist earlier, not to mention SO.com domain rank is way higher than those spammed sites that existed for less years.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by d0gsg0w00f »

mcpackieh wrote: post #844
RajT88 wrote: post #451

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Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

I don't understand why people hate Pinterest in image search results. If the image is relevant to my search then I don't care who's hosting it. Can somebody explain to me what the problem is here? https://0x0.st/HO57.webm (I don't have a pinterest account, if that makes a difference.)

I don't like pinterest because the images have no metadata. If I see something I'm interested in--like a piece of furniture--I have no way of knowing how to get more info on it.

Same thing with those displays that rotate earthporn with no info on the location. So annoying to see spectacular things and not know what they are.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by permo-w »

rchaud wrote: post #805
permo-w wrote: post #588

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I have a strong memory that Quora used to be quite good, and then was suddenly horrendous. Is this just me?

Quora was excellent for SEO, so brands and companies started using Quora answers to pump their own products and services. It's completely useless now.

I wouldn't say that's the problem I've observed. around 2015 or so I remember consistent useful Quora answers from Quora. it was Yahoo answers but better because people could justify with qualifications. I actually had an account briefly

then I'm not exactly sure when, but definitely by 2018, every answer I ever see on Google is either incorrect, answering the wrong question, or in broken English. commonly all three at once

I don't recall ever seeing a product placement, although admittedly I stopped clicking a long time ago

my educated guess is that due to some likely seo-related concern they deleted/archived/unlisted their old good quality answers in favour of newer more seo-friendly answers

it may not even be their fault, it's possible that Google's algorithm just doesn't drag up older answers from their website, but given my experience with the decision-making in the brief time I was a user there (e.g. removing the ability to add a description to questions) I suspect not

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by freediver »

pierat wrote: post #396
selcuka wrote: post #333

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I trust you will not, but what about after you exit? Anyway, you or someone else will probably start a new search engine, and we will start again. It's best to enjoy it until that happens.

I believe the founder, freediver. In the case of Radio Shack, they too made a promise never to sell or give the data to other entities. The CEO even fought for that in bankruptcy court. The judge deemed that the user data was worth a significant sum, and the judge screwed everyone over for the debtors. Once you capture the data, it's a toxic but valuable asset. And there's always someone willing to go to any end and…

> Once you capture the data, it's a toxic but valuable asset.

That is the thing, Kagi does not capture the data. Not only we do not need it, but it would just be a liability for us, with no benefit.

Please refer to our privacy policy for more details: https://kagi.com/privacy

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by permo-w »

dwighttk wrote: post #721
permo-w wrote: post #588

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I have a strong memory that Quora used to be quite good, and then was suddenly horrendous. Is this just me?

Quora used to be good but then they had to try to make revenue

Quora has plenty of potential for making consistent profit without whoring itself out, but consistent profit isn't enough in the post-Freedman world that we live in
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