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Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by tomjen3 »

alex_toms wrote: post #3

Interesting how every subscription business is slowly turning to the traditional ad-supported model. People might refuse it, but ad-supported is one of the most efficient business models on both the consumer side and business side. Allows more customers to access a service, for free, with the same quality. Plus, every company needs marketing, and even consumers need it. It allows us to notice things we might need in…

No we don't need ads for products, since products worth buying are worth people remarking about them, so we hear of the through a filter.

Ads don't make services cheaper - you end up paying for the products, the creation of the ad and the overhead, meaning you pay more in the end.

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by tomjen3 »

Mechanical9 wrote: post #35
alex_toms wrote: post #3

Interesting how every subscription business is slowly turning to the traditional ad-supported model. People might refuse it, but ad-supported is one of the most efficient business models on both the consumer side and business side. Allows more customers to access a service, for free, with the same quality. Plus, every company needs marketing, and even consumers need it. It allows us to notice things we might need in…

There's a necessity in society for some form of advertising. People and businesses want to communicate what products and services are available. If a random person wants the ability to start their own business, they're going to need the ability to advertise that they have a new product that they want people to try. Or they want to advertise that there's some societal issue that they want people to be aware of. Consid…

If I want to know what movies are playing, I can ask the cinema. This is far more effective for the both of us.

If I want to know who is running for election, this is similarily available.

As for social issues? Being able to afford to make noise has proven a drastically inferior barrier than I need.

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by achates »

nytesky wrote: post #47
blitzar wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will gladly suffer the inconvenience of buying stuff from other retailers in the future Tried it and failed. Higher prices, costly 5 day "express" shipping and questionable / non-existent return policies - the time and effort required to wade through is not worth it. I want to not use Amazon too - but other retailers make it really really hard.

What are you buying that you experience this? Household goods from target (bonus probably not fake), electronics Best Buy and B&H, Costco for a lot of misc, and clothing from old navy and h&m etc. all have easy returns and often better prices than I see at Amazon (even for books oddly — Target must track Amazon prices to the penny).

eBay is surprisingly good. I think it's because the reviews are tied to the seller instead of the item.

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by srustagi »

prepend wrote: post #5

The main reason I dropped prime is that the shipping stopped working. Two days slipped most of the time. But what put me over the edge was their music stopped being included, it was another fee to remove adds and unlock everything. And video had these annoying preroll ads. Frequently for things I already watched. Now there will be ads throughout and it’s a monthly fee to get what was free. I do like some prime shows…

stremio + torrentio + real debrid 34 usd/yr for cached torrents streamed over https

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by aldebran »

nytesky wrote: post #47
blitzar wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I will gladly suffer the inconvenience of buying stuff from other retailers in the future Tried it and failed. Higher prices, costly 5 day "express" shipping and questionable / non-existent return policies - the time and effort required to wade through is not worth it. I want to not use Amazon too - but other retailers make it really really hard.

What are you buying that you experience this? Household goods from target (bonus probably not fake), electronics Best Buy and B&H, Costco for a lot of misc, and clothing from old navy and h&m etc. all have easy returns and often better prices than I see at Amazon (even for books oddly — Target must track Amazon prices to the penny).

Yes of late my experience has been that Amazon is pricier or the same cost but rarely better.

Or for non well known branded items, just drop shipped stuff that you could get on aliexpress cheaper…

Only if I could convince my spouse to cancel…

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by lancesells »

prepend wrote: post #5

The main reason I dropped prime is that the shipping stopped working. Two days slipped most of the time. But what put me over the edge was their music stopped being included, it was another fee to remove adds and unlock everything. And video had these annoying preroll ads. Frequently for things I already watched. Now there will be ads throughout and it’s a monthly fee to get what was free. I do like some prime shows…

I haven't used Amazon for years but it's amazing they were able to include all of the things you mentioned for the price. Fast Shipping, video, music.

But the only way I can look at it is the consumer benefits while the rest are either subsidized or screwed over. Fulfillment workers are in horrible conditions, musicians make nothing on their music, and filmmakers lose their royalities and pay and increasingly become a sort of gig worker.

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by gdulli »

edgyquant wrote: post #39
Mechanical9 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a necessity in society for some form of advertising. People and businesses want to communicate what products and services are available. If a random person wants the ability to start their own business, they're going to need the ability to advertise that they have a new product that they want people to try. Or they want to advertise that there's some societal issue that they want people to be aware of. Consid…

>There's a necessity in society for some form of advertising Objectively false

The best concert I ever saw (Nightmares on Wax) was one I only knew was going to be in town from a TV commercial. I don't follow concert news.

I realized recently that I only ever see blockbuster movies anymore because I've hardcore eliminated advertising from my life. I don't know what movies are coming out anymore if they're not huge and mainstream. That's kind of a bummer. Movie trailers were one kind of commercial I did like.

Advertising mostly sucks, yes, but like all takes you can be too extremist about it. Sometimes an advertiser's interests align with mine. Maybe I should know the full range of products and services available. I'm not going to forget that the advertiser's message is biased.

By blocking all advertising from my life I've introduced a different kind of bias into my choices.

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by vel0city »

jackhack wrote: post #45

History repeats itself. I'm old enough to remember when "Cable TV" meant "no advertisements." And then it was just a few between programs. Then during the program, which eventually made it indistinguishable from "over the air" (antenna/aerial) broadcasting. Now Netflix, and Amazon repeat the lesson for another generation of consumer.

> I'm old enough to remember when "Cable TV" meant "no advertisements."

You must be infinitely old then, because "Cable TV" at its inception had ads. Cable TV was originally just bundling all the local stations, and it was like that for thirty years. So the first thirty years of cable had ads. Even most of the first few cable-only TV stations had ads. The second cable-only TV station, WTBS, had ads. Nickelodeon, ESPN, CNN, USA, all had ads from their start and were some of the very first cable-only TV stations.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2020/11/02/the-rise-...

Re: Amazon to add limited ads to Prime Video starting in early 2024

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Post by vel0city »

thfuran wrote: post #66
jackthetab wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-flamebait question: But how do you know to look it up in the first place? Word of mouth from friends or reviewers, i.e. influencers? Unless we're defining "ads" to mean "interstitial video|aural ads", then I'll concede the point.

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking how someone who has never heard of the idea of a movie will find out what movie releases are upcoming? Is that really the sort of outlier we want to structure our society around?

Most of the movies I've seen were because of a poster hung someplace or a trailer playing before a movie at the theater or something sparked an interest in seeing it. Movie posters hanging on the wall are a form of advertising. If we didn't allow movie posters to be hung or trailers to be played I would have not known about a lot of movies I've enjoyed over the years.
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