I've actually found I barely use search engines anymore. I go directly to sites. Seems like people have forgotten this. I've heard good things about Kagi but at the end of the day, we have an address bar for a reason.
Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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#832I wish there was a way to just buy 10,000 searches as a block and charge down against it. I don’t search that much. I don’t want another monthly service fee. But I love the idea of paying for search. Id happily pay $5 for 300 searches, but don’t want to do that every month. This seems like the buffet or gym model where they want people just mindlessly paying and then not using it that much.
Subscription based services are horrible user experience and it's a show of bad faith from the vendor, IMHO. You want me to be locked into your service, wen lwell, then I don't trust you or your product. This whole post feels dirty, how it's a direct link to a blog post that just reads like a press release, and there's a ton of sus responses promoting it in this thread. Tin foil hat, are we having a reddit bot moment…
What is a good way to charge for an ongoing service without a subscription?
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#833Earlier quoted context omitted.
can you give a few examples where you would think that kagi wouldn't be able to match google?
Sure. Sadly, my google search history is turned off, so I don't have a list of my recent searches there. One that I remember from a couple months ago was that I was trying to recall the name of an exercise they used to do (and may still) in design schools. In the exercise, students are given a problem and a short period of time to work on it, everybody working at the same time. At the end, they get together and criti…
yeah i understand the type of questions you are talking about now. thanks!
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#834Earlier quoted context omitted.
You probably just killed this "feature" since kagi employees are monitoring this forum :)
We do read the comments, but as far as I'm concerned this is a feature, not a bug :)
FWIW, I don’t sign up for any recurring subscriptions outside of major utilities, so this feature won $108 from me.
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#835It’s still a hard sell. Netflix was running at 8.99 back in the day, I pay $5 for Spotify and Hulu combo as a student. These companies pay royalties, have to secure licenses, have the equipment to feed multimedia to me, apps, Netflix even makes shows now, etc. If they want to get to the average user they’ll need to figure out either a student discount, a combo with another service, light ads like Hulu or optimize the…
I agree. I like kagi, I like it better than Google. But it's not _that_ much better. Certainly not $10 a month better. For comparison, I pay $3/month for mightytext. Which is a tool for Android that lets me send/view/search text messages on my phone from any browser. I'd pay $10/month for it, but kagi doesn't give me nearly that much value
I'm very glad that my value scale doesnt concern itself with the difference between $3 and $10, I can't imagine going through day to day like that with that level of granularity. That is literally less than the price of a single pizza. A single potato at the store is probably $3
EDIT: I just signed up for Kagi. Youre out of your mind if this isnt worth $10, holy crap this is awesome. The amount of configurations and settings is out of this world. Unless you use google 5 times per month this far exceeds its cost.
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#836Earlier quoted context omitted.
> when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy OMG. Why doesn't Google filter out the likes of geeksforgeeks for instance? How is it possible that it always come before the genuine SO answer? Even without offering the possibility to filter out a domain (which they had, and later removed), how does the ranking algorithm not see those horrible, zero value clones??
What I don’t get is how many people are looking for stackoverflow answers while a)not aware of so copycats and b)not running adblockers
Adblockers are not a defense against this, as those results are genuine search results.
I run uBlock origin (of course), am extremely aware that geeksforgeeks exist and is utter shit, and yet I get fooled now and again, which makes me very angry at that website, Google, myself, and the world in general...
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#837Yeah $10 a month is crazy for a search engine, I would expect a lot more for that price! I an happy with searx and similars in the meantime.
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#838Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…
You should check out Pop!_OS I went from Windows to Pop!_OS, and was surprised how it just worked flawlessly on all my hardware right after installing, the UI is nice too.
Agree, it's a pretty good OS. But you should just call it "Pop OS".
Just like if Microsoft renamed Windows 11 "Win!! Win(ners ONLY) OS whooOOO!!" you would still just call it "Windows".
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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I wasn't sure because this never bothered me so I did a little experiment by searching for "does it warn about mispellings" (Note the intentional misspelling above.) And here is the result: We haven’t found anything. There are no results that match all your keywords exactly. Check your spelling, try different keywords, or try without quotes: does it warn about mispellings Edit: I then tried to repeat the experiment w…
Thanks for checking! This result is too verbose (first two sentences mean the same, but also aren't needed since you already see no results), and then instead of the "check your spelling" it should just, you know, check my spelling :) and show an active link to the quoted query with typos corrected And the suggestion shouldn't only show when you've found nothing, it should be a basic spellcheck correction suggestion…
If this is more important to you than all the things I have listed above then I don't think Kagi is the right search engine for you.
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#840Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read some days back on HN that even Yandex is better than Google nowadays. And I apologoze for shilling a Russian company, but it is true! For some queries, Yandex is better than Google. I have replaced Google completely with DDG for most searches, ChatGPT for some things, GitHub Copilot for mundane code questions, phind or code.you.com for things requiring more search, and Kagi for things requiring much more searc…
Google's been losing in blind comparisons for over a decade (experiments: - Both have google branding -> competitor wins - Neither has google branding -> competitor wins - One (chosen randomly) has google branding -> google branding wins Yahoo search consistently beat them for a few years before Microsoft bought it and turned it into Bing. It doesn't surprise me at all that Yandex is also producing better results.
Verizon bought Yahoo, not Microsoft- it was never turned into bing. interestingly, a years ago they became independent again.